Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
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Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#2Question: if the guy thought the Autopilot was failing, why did he continue to use it?
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#3Question: if the guy thought the Autopilot was failing, why did he continue to use it?
I have used Tesla’s autopilot...it has its moments...I don’t think it can make decisions within 10 second windows before obstacles.
It’s also very dodgy at certain merges. I take it off autopilot.
On a slightly diff note: I wanted a demo of auto parallel parking and also reverse parallel parking and summon feature after the last update. I went to the Tesla showroom. They were super nice but refused to demonstrate due to liability issues. They stood aside and a little away ..gave me instructions. Worked like a charm and it was awesome...but didn’t inspire confidence.
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#4Question: if the guy thought the Autopilot was failing, why did he continue to use it?
From previous reporting on this incident in 2018:
> “The driver had received several visual and one audible hands-on warning earlier in the drive and the driver’s hands were not detected on the wheel for six seconds prior to the collision,” Tesla said. “The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken.”
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/03/30/tesla-autopilot-was-o...
Also, the safety barrier that would've reduced the force of the impact had not been replaced after a recent accident just days before.
> Earlier this week, Tesla said the divider was missing a safety barrier designed to reduce the impact of a crash. The automaker provided an image of the location taken a day before the collision that appeared to show the barrier had not been replaced following a recent crash.
Reddit thread and Youtube video with a Model S driver reproducing the AP behavior due to the lane markings and uneven pavement:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/899i1w/my_mode...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVJSjeHDvfY&feature=youtu.be
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#5Question: if the guy thought the Autopilot was failing, why did he continue to use it?
It's the curse of SAE Level 3. The driver is responsible for monitoring a system that works fine 99% of the time, they start to feel a false sense of security and when it does fail they're not paying as much attention as they need to be.
This is also why SAE autonomy levels are a poor measure of a vehicle's capabilities, but that's another rant.
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#6Tesla says autopilot works but that driver should be ready to intervene. This is terrifying - like having a kid riding shotgun that might just reach out and turn the wheel while you are on the highway.
Anyone who has driven with autopilot, how quickly might it react to a perceived obstacle? Would it take a hard turn into a median faster than a person could reasonably react if it thought there was something in the road or that the road took a hard left?
Edit Ready to intervene can mean a lot of things - ready to take over in traffic or inclement weather vs firm grip on the wheel to resist rogue hard turns
Actual quote from the article
>Tesla says Autopilot is intended to be used for driver assistance and that drivers must be ready to intervene at all times.
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#7Don't text and autopilot on level 3, which is a nascent technology. An engineer should know better. Wonder why a level 3 is allowed to market as an 'autopilot'.
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#8IMHO the fault ultimately lies with Caltrans. Poorly drawn lane markers resulted in a human driver hitting the barrier just days before destroying the arresting system. If the lanes had been painted correctly and the arresting system replaced the Tesla driver would not have died.
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#9Tesla should not be allowed to market their cars as self driving or call the product autopilot. It’s a fancy driver assist system that will sometimes kill you if you actually take Tesla marketing bullshit at face value.
Re: Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously complained about autopilot
#10IMHO the fault ultimately lies with Caltrans. Poorly drawn lane markers resulted in a human driver hitting the barrier just days before destroying the arresting system. If the lanes had been painted correctly and the arresting system replaced the Tesla driver would not have died.
Oh yeah, you should come drive on Montreal roads. Lane markers don't exist.