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Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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Re: Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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For what its worth, I used to hold a clearance in the US nuclear navy and the story on wikipedia is what I was always told. Im not sure there is anything of value in the documents to be released, but im sure curious to find out.

Sure, but a great deal of people hold clearances in and outside of the US Military (over 1.5 million hold Top Secret according to Wikipedia) - doesn't mean you were privy to information that was sensitive or you didn't need to know.

Not saying there's anything more to the USS Thresher itself, just commenting that a clearance doesn't automatically entitle you to all the information about everything.

Re: Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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post #5

For what its worth, I used to hold a clearance in the US nuclear navy and the story on wikipedia is what I was always told. Im not sure there is anything of value in the documents to be released, but im sure curious to find out.

Sure, but a great deal of people hold clearances in and outside of the US Military (over 1.5 million hold Top Secret according to Wikipedia) - doesn't mean you were privy to information that was sensitive or you didn't need to know. Not saying there's anything more to the USS Thresher itself, just commenting that a clearance doesn't automatically entitle you to all the information about everything.

Definitely true, but the article is about releasing unclassified documents

Re: Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but a great deal of people hold clearances in and outside of the US Military (over 1.5 million hold Top Secret according to Wikipedia) - doesn't mean you were privy to information that was sensitive or you didn't need to know. Not saying there's anything more to the USS Thresher itself, just commenting that a clearance doesn't automatically entitle you to all the information about everything.

Definitely true, but the article is about releasing unclassified documents

> unclassified documents

That part seems odd from the article. If they were not classified, seems the FOIA request would have had an easier time getting them released... or they would have been released already. The Navy generates enough paperwork that it's not reasonable to expect all unclassified documents to be released... but these seem to have been a little more closely guarded than that. They are releasing them in batches after they are reviewed too - which is usually part of a declassification process.

I'd wager they are being unclassified as part of the release here.

Re: Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but a great deal of people hold clearances in and outside of the US Military (over 1.5 million hold Top Secret according to Wikipedia) - doesn't mean you were privy to information that was sensitive or you didn't need to know. Not saying there's anything more to the USS Thresher itself, just commenting that a clearance doesn't automatically entitle you to all the information about everything.

Definitely true, but the article is about releasing unclassified documents

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Re: Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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post #5

For what its worth, I used to hold a clearance in the US nuclear navy and the story on wikipedia is what I was always told. Im not sure there is anything of value in the documents to be released, but im sure curious to find out.

Sure, but a great deal of people hold clearances in and outside of the US Military (over 1.5 million hold Top Secret according to Wikipedia) - doesn't mean you were privy to information that was sensitive or you didn't need to know. Not saying there's anything more to the USS Thresher itself, just commenting that a clearance doesn't automatically entitle you to all the information about everything.

OP never implied he knew everything.

Re: Judge Orders Navy to Release USS Thresher Disaster Documents

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post #9
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but a great deal of people hold clearances in and outside of the US Military (over 1.5 million hold Top Secret according to Wikipedia) - doesn't mean you were privy to information that was sensitive or you didn't need to know. Not saying there's anything more to the USS Thresher itself, just commenting that a clearance doesn't automatically entitle you to all the information about everything.

OP never implied he knew everything.

I think it is important to clarify that "have clearance" here is effectively meaningless all by itself.
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