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Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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Next step for UK is to reduce regulations compared to EU to make it easier for people to setup shop in UK compared to EU.

It was easier already. From what I hear setting up shop in the UK is more straightforward than doing the same thing in France.

Yep. You could have a company incorporated and bank account set up all ready to trade by tomorrow lunchtime for about $50.

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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French banks are slow, but they provide good services. When i lived in the UK, i had only a debit card (maestro). If you wanted a mastercard you needed a credit card account where you needed to manually balance at the end of the month. Mind you this was 10 years ago, when the UK was Just introducing PIN code for every card transaction, a security feature found in France since the 90s. In France you get mastercard as…

> Mind you this was 10 years ago, when the UK was Just introducing PIN code for every card transaction Err. C&P was universal by 2006ish from memory, but many venues just didn't accept anything other than cash at all. I suspect you are misremembering.

We started a UK shop 16 years ago and still had counterfoil machines (you put a card in, put a paper slip on it, push a roller over the card to ink an impression of the details, ...). You could definitely still swipe your card then.

Also from memory, I'd guess 10-12 years as the point when chip&pin was required for _every_ card transaction. Now of course we have moved on to also have contactless.

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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> Though the only real new Bank in the UK to do well, traction wise would be Metro Bank This probably indicates that you are not in fact as well exposed to bank marketing as you suspect - it's hard to argue that Monzo and Revolut have not done well.

I'm aware of those two at least, but from people I know, not one had them and basing around that aspect of traction - sure that may well not represent the market, but at least I'm aware of them, unlike this N26.

According to a quick search - Monzo had 3 million customers as of Sept ‘19 [1] vs Metro Bank’s 1.7 million in May ‘19 [2].

[1] https://monzo.com/blog/2019/09/16/three-million

[2] https://www.metrobankonline.co.uk/about-us/press-releases/ne...

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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Interesting I would say Monzo is by a mile. Edit, I had a quick look at Google play downloads as a benchmark (Not great I know) but looks like you're right. Monzo is 1m~ Revolut is 5m~

Problem is that Revolut is an electronic money institution while Monzo is a bank. If they go bust with the former you’re out of money, with the latter the government will refund your money up to 85k£.

Are you sure they're not a bank yet? They got their banking license a while ago: https://blog.revolut.com/we-got-a-banking-licence/

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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No card alias support at the minute they are trailing behind there

Curious, what’s card alias?

Well this thread is now the top Google result for 'uk bank "card alias"', so if it wasn't a thing before, it is now!

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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Anecdote time - the only person I know who had an account (I work in London fintech at the moment) never used it and only opened it for the fancy translucent card. He seems to have accounts with all the 'challenger' banks.

Random question, but I'm moving to London in a few months, do you have any suggestions on banks or "challenger" banks I should go with? (couldn't figure out how to DM you, not sure if it's possible on Hacker News)

I'd strongly recommend having two: Nationwide as your base and a challenger for international wires/multi currency (I use revolut but there are lots of others).

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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Transferwise's borderless account might also be worth a look too if you need to hold or regularly spend money in other currencies. I've moved the opposite way and have been quite happy with it.

Does TW have a banking license? I seem to recall they don't, so your money wouldn't be insured in the same way, or something like that.

True - I don't think so. There are regulatory assurances that they ringfence the money and you should be able to get it all back should they go under, but yeah I would be wary of using them as the only place to keep my money or substantial sums. They are super useful for receiving and sending money to/from different countries though, reasonabble fees.

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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Businesses pulling out of the UK based on the Brexit process is bad for the UK, and I'm sure this was indeed mainly motivated by N26's need for a UK banking licence, which is a costly and difficult process to go through. However, it's worth noting that they are pretty small in the UK (~200k users). They're very successful in Germany where banking is a very slow, difficult, manually run industry (from what I've heard)…

I’m with you. I don’t buy the lack of UK license argument. Surely they can apply for one and get it approved in time—just like other banks will have to. But it might have not been worth the time given the small user base and limited differentiation factors.

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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> we’ve already fully redesigned our mobile experience to simplify the actions that matter most to customers I couldn't contain my laugh reading that, sending money using the N26 app is a 12 steps process (no exaggeration) since the app update and the "AI" behind the categorization of spendings is an amazing garbage, e.g. I have a once a month recurring payment of the same amount from my landlord, I have categorized…

> sending money using the N26 app is a 12 steps process

Not sure if we’re in different A/B test buckets or you’re in a different country and are using a different version but it’s four to five taps for me? Unless you’re counting the log in button and typing the amount as separate steps?

Re: N26 will be leaving the UK

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I've recently moved from the UK to another European country, and whilst I despise the way the politics is going back home - I'm amazed at how much better banking is back in the UK. It's free to have an account and debit card, often with a modest free overdraft. And transfers are really instant. As in I can transfer from Barclays to Santander and by the time I've double-tapped between bank apps the money will be there…

This is on the EU roadmap though, for what it's worth. Sometime in the next few years, we should see instantaneous transfers within the EU.

Actually the EU request the law to be adopted much earlier. The countries that blocked its early implementation were Germany and France.
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