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Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#101

Post by throwaway41597 »

giovannibonetti wrote: post #68

Bear with me for a moment: I firmly believe that in order for good .com domains to be available for a smaller price the registry fee should be far higher. The reason for that is speculation: even though a .com registration is dirty cheap, getting a decent .com domain is very expensive because for many companies it is worth it to keep the domains parked, and when someone wants to buy one of them it gets very expensive…

Honestly (disclosure: I own some of those second class domains), I highly doubt it.

This is a case where efficient markets mostly apply I would assume. Sure, I'd reconsider if I'm really going to ship this dream side project in my lifetime and I may drop some of those domains, but if they're good, professional domain resellers will snap at them before you get a chance.

And if you think that $10/year is too cheap, what makes you think $100/year is closer to an optimum? Why not $1000? I don't want to get into politics but this is a universal problem.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if this makes things worse. Raising prices evicts small domain speculators from the game and concentrates the supply into fewer hands.

This is a money grab. No one in charge intends for this increase to make things fairer. I don't think anyone looking for a domain name should rejoice that taxes (going straight to for-profits) got higher.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#102

Post by paulryanrogers »

mdorazio wrote: post #87
giovannibonetti wrote: post #68

Bear with me for a moment: I firmly believe that in order for good .com domains to be available for a smaller price the registry fee should be far higher. The reason for that is speculation: even though a .com registration is dirty cheap, getting a decent .com domain is very expensive because for many companies it is worth it to keep the domains parked, and when someone wants to buy one of them it gets very expensive…

Thank you for saying this. I think a lot of people probably haven't felt the pain of actually acquiring a trademark and branded domain these days. My personal opinion is that .com domains should be a minimum $100 per year. At this price point the number of available domains would skyrocket effectively overnight as it became untenable for squatters to hold on to them. If you can't afford $100/year for a domain to be u…

This could cause more centralization of the web. It's likely that other TLDs will follow since .com is one of the cheaper ones and the most commonly sought.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#103

Post by mdorazio »

IceWreck wrote: post #100
mdorazio wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for saying this. I think a lot of people probably haven't felt the pain of actually acquiring a trademark and branded domain these days. My personal opinion is that .com domains should be a minimum $100 per year. At this price point the number of available domains would skyrocket effectively overnight as it became untenable for squatters to hold on to them. If you can't afford $100/year for a domain to be u…

Youre thinking about yourself. Students etc who have .com domains cant afford $100 a year for their domain? Should they be forced to give up their domains because people like you couldnt get their chosen domains from squatters/

I'm not sure why students etc. need specifically .com domains.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#104

Post by nojvek »

ohazi wrote: post #57

This is not going to end. ICANN has revealed their hand -- they are corrupt. But we don't actually need them. What we do need is a "Let's Encrypt" style initiative to replace the DNS roots in their entirety, run by competent, principled people. It would be difficult, but the people who are pissed off about this have clout at Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla (the web browser gatekeepers) and might actually be able to pu…

I agree with this. The power really lies with Browser holders. The browser is the most used app in the world.

If browser folks + name registry folks like namecheap, godaddy, cloudflare etc got together to another .com resolution method and gave ICANN and Verizon a middle finger, this could really work.

Right now, as is, ICANN is a corrupt and profit at any cost motivated org. This will most surely not turn out well for the internet.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#105

Post by fyfy18 »

giovannibonetti wrote: post #68

Bear with me for a moment: I firmly believe that in order for good .com domains to be available for a smaller price the registry fee should be far higher. The reason for that is speculation: even though a .com registration is dirty cheap, getting a decent .com domain is very expensive because for many companies it is worth it to keep the domains parked, and when someone wants to buy one of them it gets very expensive…

Why do we still consider the "perfect domain" valuable? Most users will search on Google for the company rather than typing the address (even for companies that probably do have a .com, like their bank) so why is it something we still care about?

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#106

Post by dvasdekis »

whoopdedo wrote: post #94
ohazi wrote: post #57

This is not going to end. ICANN has revealed their hand -- they are corrupt. But we don't actually need them. What we do need is a "Let's Encrypt" style initiative to replace the DNS roots in their entirety, run by competent, principled people. It would be difficult, but the people who are pissed off about this have clout at Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla (the web browser gatekeepers) and might actually be able to pu…

The problem with alternate roots is they usually abandon traditional domains. A solution to this problem must include some way to bring the existing .COM, .ORG and .NET databases into the new root or else existing domain owners will look at the cost of migrating the brand they've spent years building and instead decide to just pay the ICANN tax.

By my limited understanding, Handshake does exactly this, with a Handshake-equivalent domain for any of the top ~100k .com holders for free.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#107

Post by daun »

If you're a California resident and are affected by the price changes, you can file a complaint with the California Attorney General. If you're a US resident outside of California you can file a complaint with the Department of Commerce as well as the antitrust division of the Department of Justice. And if you really want to get revenge against ICANN you can contact Senator Ted Cruz's office and let them know what you think of ICANN's recent actions since their 2016 IANA takeover. He was the loudest political voice to oppose it when it happened.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#108

Post by monkeywork »

mdorazio wrote: post #103
IceWreck wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youre thinking about yourself. Students etc who have .com domains cant afford $100 a year for their domain? Should they be forced to give up their domains because people like you couldnt get their chosen domains from squatters/

I'm not sure why students etc. need specifically .com domains.

Explain please?

Is there something about a .com that makes one group of people less "needy" of it.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#109

Post by Can_Not »

mdorazio wrote: post #87
giovannibonetti wrote: post #68

Bear with me for a moment: I firmly believe that in order for good .com domains to be available for a smaller price the registry fee should be far higher. The reason for that is speculation: even though a .com registration is dirty cheap, getting a decent .com domain is very expensive because for many companies it is worth it to keep the domains parked, and when someone wants to buy one of them it gets very expensive…

Thank you for saying this. I think a lot of people probably haven't felt the pain of actually acquiring a trademark and branded domain these days. My personal opinion is that .com domains should be a minimum $100 per year. At this price point the number of available domains would skyrocket effectively overnight as it became untenable for squatters to hold on to them. If you can't afford $100/year for a domain to be u…

The worst squatters don't pay the same prices as we do.

This will price more people out of their first domain than price out any serious squatters.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#110

Post by Can_Not »

btrettel wrote: post #81
Marsymars wrote: post #26

I'm really considering abandoning my firstlast.com domain (used for email and personal blog) and transitioning to firstlast.ccTLD so that I can stop giving Verisign money.

I've had $lastname.org since 2004 but plan to move to $lastname.us for similar reasons. I did register $lastname.org until 2029, though.

.us domains don't allow whois privacy.
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