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ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

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Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#41

Between this, and the .org fiasco, I have lost any faith I had in ICANN's stewardship of the web.

I have a friend in the domain regulation industry. His take on the .org sale, was that everyone's worries about what a private equity firm might do to a TLD has already happened under ICANN.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#42

Possible positive side effect is reducing profitability of Domain Squatters, leading to more names available. If you've ever tried to get a domain you know what a hassle it is to find a decent .com

As an owner of thousands of domains, I can tell you a minor price increase is not going to change the economics of the business.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

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If anything costs should have gone down. Bandwidth is cheaper, and processing power has gone up. However, even with that DNS has been pretty distributed by design. Lowering system load at the top level to begin with. Like some country code domains are managed by a pretty small number people to begin with. So it's not like you need a large amount of staff either.

The problem is lower registration prices mean more registrations and renewals, aka squatting. It is hard to say what direction or price point is either optimal or fair.

Domain squatters will exist no matter what. It’s just a business that exists to resell stuff. Price goes up, and their price will go up.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#44

Possible positive side effect is reducing profitability of Domain Squatters, leading to more names available. If you've ever tried to get a domain you know what a hassle it is to find a decent .com

I haven't looked for a .com in a long time, but when people are looking for .com's, do they really find that their choices are mostly taken by squatters and not by other people with legitimate uses for the domains? I would think that .com's are just saturated because it's the standard TLD and also because it was only recently that new TLDs appeared.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another way to look at this (and this only works for domains, not things like hosting) is supply and demand. There's a limit to the number of domains out there, and there's a huge increase in people who want them. It's almost like Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies... scarcity is built in to domains. At some point, they'll all be taken.

How's there a limit when there's a new TLD on an almost bimonthly basis? If you're going for something lower than 8 characters, odds are you're either paying thousands or buying something that's not .com.

Being able to register a .ninja or .space domain does not eliminate the limit of practical .com domain names. Does an apartment building opening in Pierre South Dakota have much of an effect on the scarcity of housing in New York or San Francisco?

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#46
post #36
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything costs should have gone down. Bandwidth is cheaper, and processing power has gone up. However, even with that DNS has been pretty distributed by design. Lowering system load at the top level to begin with. Like some country code domains are managed by a pretty small number people to begin with. So it's not like you need a large amount of staff either.

The problem is lower registration prices mean more registrations and renewals, aka squatting. It is hard to say what direction or price point is either optimal or fair.

> more registrations and renewals, aka squatting

People falsely equate any domain they can't register and doesn't have a website with squatting.

I get at least one angry email from someone a month trying to buy a domain that only has MX (mail) records. Another is a 3 letter .com I use for my internal lab environment, and I explicitly don't want it to resolve on the public Internet.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#47
Is there a TLD/gTLD that isn't run by people intent on profiteering and corruption?

Even if everyone were to abandon .com/net/etc, and moved to .whatever, you're still supporting ICANN through IANA, no?

So basically we have no choice but to support them, or revert to sharing IP addresses?

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#48

I know very little about the technical and business side of DNS and Domain Registrars. That being said, have things actually gotten more expensive for them to operate? I'm pretty confident the answer is no and these price increases just reflect the need for a handful of entities to charge more for an essential service with no viable alternative.

It does have the benefit that the price affects the reputation of a TLD. I know there are some cheap TLDs that people block because their cheap price makes them attractive for mass-registration by spammers.

I don't like that administrators resort to blocking whole TLDs, and I don't like that there can be so much variation in profit between domains with no correlation to operational costs. Still, I can't say that it's purely a greedy move on their part. People do benefit from paying more.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#49
post #42

Possible positive side effect is reducing profitability of Domain Squatters, leading to more names available. If you've ever tried to get a domain you know what a hassle it is to find a decent .com

As an owner of thousands of domains, I can tell you a minor price increase is not going to change the economics of the business.

It might be a start though. If domains were taxed at say 1% of their value it would go a long way towards evicting squatters.

Re: ICANN Allows .COM Price Increases, Gets More Money

#50

Is there a TLD/gTLD that isn't run by people intent on profiteering and corruption? Even if everyone were to abandon .com/net/etc, and moved to .whatever, you're still supporting ICANN through IANA, no? So basically we have no choice but to support them, or revert to sharing IP addresses?

ccTLDs don't really depend on ICANN. They need a root server entry, but politically it would be suicide to deny it.
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