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The Disneyfication of a University

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Re: The Disneyfication of a University

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post #25

Several years ago, I had to attend a full day "culture training" session given by Senn Delaney (a division of Heidrick & Struggles) [1]. It was also a massive waste of time. Our company actually has a really great culture, and what I remember of the training amounted to a somewhat subtle attempt to indoctrinate employees to be more blindly obedient to management change initiatives. There was some other stuff, but I h…

"Heidrick & Struggles" -- the second part of that name is apt!

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

#72
post #61

A good rule of thumb is that the more a corporation talks about "culture", the more the employees should be wary that they are getting fleeced. A lot of companies have realized that they get employees to work harder for less if they are able to get the employees to develop some sort of emotional attachment to the company. If you as an employee are getting a lot of push about "company culture" and the company is tryin…

> A lot of companies have realized that they get employees to work harder for less if they are able to get the employees to develop some sort of emotional attachment to the company. This is the kind of bullshit I inoculate myself against by telling myself: This is not your life. These are not your best friends. This is you farming gold out of a megacorp so you have the means to advance the story-driven missions that…

Is that what you’re doing?

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

#73
post #44

The funny thing is that Disney actually could teach a university something, but that's not it. Disney is really good at a few things, like line, crowd, and parking management. Disney could probably make a school's football stadium and parking run better. Disney creates the illusion that they're better than they are by over-maintaining the visible stuff. So they could help create a culture that makes a school look les…

Actually, just got back from a trip there and was absolutely shocked at the lack of cleanliness of one of their restaurants (Oga's). Maybe it was a one-off.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

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The most common reason people leave companies is not compensation. It's usually about relationships, primarily with the boss but also coworkers. I'm on the spectrum, so I function a bit like an automaton which places little value on the social aspects of work, but most people aren't like that. This is how "on the spectrum" I am. One time I was on a team that did a team building exercise where we went to a local chari…

This. Feelings became such a driving force lately, no matter where you look. Politics, business, it's all about how people "feel". And not even really how the feel, but more about the pretending of how they feel.

Your example trends a little bit on the extreme end of the spectrum (I totally get your point, so), but the truth is that for a lot of people that is a truly good experience. IMHO companies are abusing this for cheap employee motivation and PR.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

#75

I've worked at places that have really great culture. And places that just wasted everyone's time like we all have. The key for me was seeing people consistently let go for breaking "core values". Or having it be a basis for someone's promotion. Obviously that is never going to work well in a University context where tenure is a thing. If your company is doing that... AND you actually agree and like the Core Values t…

Everybody is hired and fired because of how they express the core values. In some places the top core values are "don't get caught", and "frame your neighbor". In universities it is "get and keep tenure". Both of the above often have other core values, but they are up to you to discover. Sometimes you run across an organization that has stated core values that match the real ones.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

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The most common reason people leave companies is not compensation. It's usually about relationships, primarily with the boss but also coworkers. I'm on the spectrum, so I function a bit like an automaton which places little value on the social aspects of work, but most people aren't like that. This is how "on the spectrum" I am. One time I was on a team that did a team building exercise where we went to a local chari…

> I calculated how much that cost the company and made a presentation to my boss about how much more we could have done by hiring minimum wage workers to perform the same manual labor for the same $ they paid us.

This is funny and very self-aware of you, but you bring up a good point.

Would people feel worse/better/the same if the company said "you can take a day off today and we're going to give your day's salary to a bunch of minimum wage labor to perform charity work."

Or maybe give people the option to show up to the event or allow their salary that day to be use to pay a few people to show up in their place.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

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A good rule of thumb is that the more a corporation talks about "culture", the more the employees should be wary that they are getting fleeced. A lot of companies have realized that they get employees to work harder for less if they are able to get the employees to develop some sort of emotional attachment to the company. If you as an employee are getting a lot of push about "company culture" and the company is tryin…

I’ve been on the other side of the table where these decisions are made. It’s rarely malicious. It’s more so trying to emulate companies they think of as successful. Many business leaders believe that market cap == goodness of management, and so they copy companies they know to be large. Culture is part of it. And culture can make a really positive difference, but not when it’s force fed as shown here. The part about only GW being able to do this stuff struck a painful chord with me.

The two big things that determine whether these things suck or rock is basically the amount of money the company invests into its own employees and the amount of growth opportunities. Both of those are (optional) second order effects of the company being wealthy and successful most of the time.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

#78
post #62

How can universities afford things like this, when, at the same time, there seems to be a big student loan problem in the US?

In a monetary sense, universities can afford this shit exactly because of the huge loans taken up by students. In an ethical sense, they can afford it because people don't care enough to dump them over it.

So far. Perhaps it's my imagination, but I'm detecting a noticeable decline in the quality of recent graduates, as compared to ten or twenty years ago. You can't water down the booze indefinitely without people noticing.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

#79
post #61

A good rule of thumb is that the more a corporation talks about "culture", the more the employees should be wary that they are getting fleeced. A lot of companies have realized that they get employees to work harder for less if they are able to get the employees to develop some sort of emotional attachment to the company. If you as an employee are getting a lot of push about "company culture" and the company is tryin…

> A lot of companies have realized that they get employees to work harder for less if they are able to get the employees to develop some sort of emotional attachment to the company. This is the kind of bullshit I inoculate myself against by telling myself: This is not your life. These are not your best friends. This is you farming gold out of a megacorp so you have the means to advance the story-driven missions that…

While I agree with you completely there is a different side. It's better for you since you get more from the relationship.

Re: The Disneyfication of a University

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The most common reason people leave companies is not compensation. It's usually about relationships, primarily with the boss but also coworkers. I'm on the spectrum, so I function a bit like an automaton which places little value on the social aspects of work, but most people aren't like that. This is how "on the spectrum" I am. One time I was on a team that did a team building exercise where we went to a local chari…

I find your anecdote silly (no offense intended), but do agree with the general point. Especially in tech, you can have a drastically higher impact donating some tech time than manual labor time.
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