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Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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How is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store? All the tech giants participate in this behavior.

Microsoft are somehow now expected to be the good guy, because everything else will harm your GitHub social credits that are required for hiring being hired in SV.

Please tell me you're being sarcastic because I'm only 90% sure you are.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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My god if apple did something like this people would burn cities down. Why do people still trust Microsoft when their OS is literally a native advertising and tracking tool now

On iOS Apple would just not allow Firefox and be done with it.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Microsoft doing shady stuff again. It's really a shame. The engineering that the teams at Microsoft put to the kernel and the actual operating system at large is amazing. But then some Product Management division decides to shove this shit down people's throat and, for me at least, ruins all the fun of what would is otherwise an amazing piece of an operating system. I paid for an operating system, just let me use the…

Microsoft doing shady stuff again. It's really a shame. The engineering that the teams at Microsoft put to the kernel and the actual operating system at large is amazing.

This has been Microsoft forever. They have always made some good things, but from a business perspective, they've always been parasitoids. They infect you, then eventually consume you from the inside-out.

THAT is their DNA. And so far, I have seen zero indication they've changed.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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My god if apple did something like this people would burn cities down. Why do people still trust Microsoft when their OS is literally a native advertising and tracking tool now

It would appear that they do: https://twitter.com/mxwllt/status/882190696224083968 (the picture shows a desktop notification "Try the new Safari – Fast, energy efficient, and with a beautiful new design." with "Later" and "Try Now" as possible actions, and apparently popped up when the tweet's author opened Chrome), see also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22289499

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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This, and every other screw-up in the same vein, is why those of us old enough to remember the Halloween documents don't buy the whole "new Microsoft" thing. Want to get me to try Edge? Great -- instead of a passive-aggressive ad, try telling me how it's better than Firefox and why I'd like to use it instead. What will it get me? Better privacy? Better performance? Better development tools? Cynically, it's amazing th…

Over the last couple of years I've been coming round to the fact that microsoft aren't necessarily a major problem now, compared to google and amazon at least. Doesn't take much to put the shields back upto full. I just don't understand why people run windows. Maybe I just use computers wrong, having been on linux for the last 20 years, but my family (who I refuse to help with IT needs) are all far happier on chromeb…

Because everyone has their own priorities.

My main priority is to give my family technical solutions they could manage if I were to kick the bucket, and to ultimately own their data they need.

Between my wife and I we have 1tb of photos and videos. We could store it all in the cloud, but then if they shut her account down for whatever reason we would lose them all. Maybe I'm paranoid, but I don't find this acceptable. I do seem to be in the minority here, everyone I know just hosts all their files at a single cloud provide. It seems nuts to me.

And I haven't found an off-site backup solution that works with Linux. CrashPlan used to offer family plans but they got rid of them. Backblaze only has B2 for Linux - not really acceptable given my requirements.

So my family runs Windows. I run Linux.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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My god if apple did something like this people would burn cities down. Why do people still trust Microsoft when their OS is literally a native advertising and tracking tool now

They do: https://twitter.com/mxwllt/status/882190696224083968

I've seen this behavior on different Macs with Chrome and Firefox installs, on launch of the other browser the Safari notification pops up. It usually only happens once though.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Microsoft didn't buy Github out of the goodness of their heart. They also didn't buy it because of it's significant revenue, a couple hundred million is probably a marketing budget to Microsoft, not something that drives the bottom line. Microsoft also didn't buy it to score appearance points with the socially conscious dev community that populated most of Github, although it was a nice PR story for a bit. You could…

AI is a good thing if it takes all jobs. The bad thing is the non-stop messing with standards and EEE. Because it makes existing jobs unbearable.

This thinking needs to stop. Seriously, just stop saying things like this. It's a rose-colored tech-bubble view of the world. Even if the "automation utopia" theories are correct the thinking that "man being free to pursue their passions" will increase happiness is a pipe dream at best, a complete lack of understanding of human psychology at worse. We are human: hedonic adaptation was one of our mechanisms for survival.

Nevermind the fact that the sudden dramatic shift in employment prospects for entire industries will cause disruption far beyond what our bureaucratic systems will even hope to keep up with, and the mass suffering sure to ensure as a result of millions of displaced workers and human beings now without purpose.

Stop perpetuating this shit. Please.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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post #6

Microsoft doing shady stuff again. It's really a shame. The engineering that the teams at Microsoft put to the kernel and the actual operating system at large is amazing. But then some Product Management division decides to shove this shit down people's throat and, for me at least, ruins all the fun of what would is otherwise an amazing piece of an operating system. I paid for an operating system, just let me use the…

How is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store? All the tech giants participate in this behavior.

Just because someone else does it doesn't make this right. This is shady. And Google's ads for Chrome on google.com is shady. And paid search results in the App Store especially when exploited by Apple is shady.
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