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Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

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Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#152
The title seems misleading... how is saying, "still using firefox" Anti-firefox?

It's just a fact that firefox hit its prime in terms of market share long ago. It's now at what like 4% market share and falling? Hell, 'Samsung internet' is about to pass it up.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#154

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I think part of the issue is that it is on the OS level rather than browser level on a specific website but I agree, they are all shady.

that, and also we paid for the windows license.

But it's never enough. Gotta get that growth.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do normal people (who use Windows) think that this is ok? In what universe is that possibly ok - to put ads in a paid-for OS? No matter the context, no matter the version of an os, no matter the reason, no matter what the ads are for, no matter that they could through some questionable hacking or editing be removed - ads in a paid-for OS. Has the whole world gone crazy? What is going on here?

I will go out on a limb and say “normal people” do not consider this an advertisement. The ad itself is a basically an icon, just like all the pre-bundled icons for Office, that are presented as an option to use, and in this case the thing doesn’t even cost money. Despite the emphasis and importance some people (and most of HN reader fall here) place on privacy, the general desktop user base does not care. As a closi…

I would also like to add that "normal people" don't even realize they paid for Windows since it came pre-installed on their computer.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#157

Why Firefox? Chrome has a bigger market share to take. Edge is built on Chromium now so it should be a more familiar environment for Chrome users. Microsoft is in a position to compete with many of the integration features that make Chrome appealing to many users. Surely it makes more sense to target Chrome than Firefox.

Microsoft made me install Chrome just the other day. A company I work with decided to try MS Teams for communication and when I went there using Firefox, it simply refused to let me in and told me to get Chrome. They couldn't suggest Edge because I'm on Linux, so at least they did not require me to switch my OS.

edit: after accepting the invite and setting up an account I can use the product just fine in Firefox.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#158
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Microsoft doing shady stuff again. It's really a shame. The engineering that the teams at Microsoft put to the kernel and the actual operating system at large is amazing. But then some Product Management division decides to shove this shit down people's throat and, for me at least, ruins all the fun of what would is otherwise an amazing piece of an operating system. I paid for an operating system, just let me use the…

How is this shady compared to Google's ads for Chrome on google.com or the paid search results in the App Store? All the tech giants participate in this behavior.

> How is this shady

Largely because it's Microsoft.

Everyone else does cross promotion of their products but some people hold a special place in their heart for hating on Microsoft. It usually manifests itself with frothing at the mouth, exposition about how they were sued as a monopoly, and they're the devil. It's as if Microsoft was breaking into homes in the 90s and swapping your Macs out for PCs.

Someone will respond to this post with a laundry list of complaints about them that they've had saved off in a .txt to counter posts like this.

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#159

The title seems misleading... how is saying, "still using firefox" Anti-firefox? It's just a fact that firefox hit its prime in terms of market share long ago. It's now at what like 4% market share and falling? Hell, 'Samsung internet' is about to pass it up.

Apparently, Microsoft deemed it popular enough to show ads targeting Firefox users

Re: Microsoft begins showing an anti-Firefox ad in the Windows 10 start menu

#160

Still using Windows? Still using Office (360)? Still using GitHub? These aren't maybe exactly ripe for disruption, but since all of them have existed for ages now almost without any game-changing innovation these questions are very valid as well.

Those aren't even the worst. What about linked in?
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