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Re: Mondragon Corporation

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From the article: At Mondragon, there are agreed-upon wage ratios between executive work and field or factory work which earns a minimum wage. These ratios range from 3:1 to 9:1 in different cooperatives and average 5:1. That is, the general manager of an average Mondragon cooperative earns no more than 5 times as much as the theoretical minimum wage paid in their cooperative. For most workers, this ratio is smaller…

The Size of Mondragon? No. But https://www.coops.tech/ lists some small ones.

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From the article: At Mondragon, there are agreed-upon wage ratios between executive work and field or factory work which earns a minimum wage. These ratios range from 3:1 to 9:1 in different cooperatives and average 5:1. That is, the general manager of an average Mondragon cooperative earns no more than 5 times as much as the theoretical minimum wage paid in their cooperative. For most workers, this ratio is smaller…

The John Lewis Partnership in the UK employs about 83,000 so perhaps a bit bigger. Not strictly a co-op, but very close.

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To advertise something as "it's better because it's basque/$COUNTRY" is not xenophobic at all. First, because by that definition then almost everyone would be (e.g. french). Second, because there are actual objective benefits of sourcing local products (e.g. environmental). I also really doubt what you explain is universally applicable as it looks to be a very large corporation anyway.

Its better because its local is not xenophobic, its better because its from within some made up geographical boundries is. There are tons of objective reasons to promote local products, we have incredible soil and weather, we have a historical tradition of shepherding and sea faring. But none of that is promoted, its the "its from here" with vague connotations. It is a large corporation that has had a huge trouble ex…

Do you think restrictions on the marque 'Champagne' are xenophobic?

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Its better because its local is not xenophobic, its better because its from within some made up geographical boundries is. There are tons of objective reasons to promote local products, we have incredible soil and weather, we have a historical tradition of shepherding and sea faring. But none of that is promoted, its the "its from here" with vague connotations. It is a large corporation that has had a huge trouble ex…

Every definition of "localness" is also a "made up geographical boundary" so I fail to see the distinction. It is precisely "it's from here" that my argument applied to. I.e. a supermarket advertising "it's from here" produce is not xenophobic. From my experience, Spain is actually one of the countries in Europe where it is extremely hard to find local produce. Almost everywhere else I can find specific aisle for "it…

I don't get the ecological argument. Small batch local produce has to be quite a bit less efficient than large-scale production. Transportation has to be a small fraction of the total impact?

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Hi, greetings from a worker that work at Ikerlan (a research/technological center part of the corporation). We are a second degree cooperative. Formed by workers and companies that we work for. You can see things that we do at https://www.ikerlan.es/en/ Happy to answer to questions if I can :)

Seems to be many open positions for IT staff: https://www.ikerlan.es/en/job-offers

Yes, We have some IT positions right now. My current position is Artificial Intelligence team leader on the ICT area and we are seeking for Full Stack engineers/researchers and Data Scientists.

Moreover, we also offer always the possibility to do a PhD in different domains. (power converters, batteries, embedded electronics, safety critical systems, wireless technologies, IoT , AI, etc). In my team we have 4 PhD students right now in collaboration with different universities.

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In the UK there is Suma wholefoods being notable for being the largest equal pay cooperative in Europe with a turn over of £40 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suma_(co-operative)

Also in UK Food, https://www.unicorn-grocery.coop/ in Manchester is pretty cool.

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I think this is more related to each company status (and laws). Eroski almost broke and is in "survival mode" right now. As I know the general objective is to be around 60-70%.

So if they get rid of eroski and just privatise it, you think they can go back to 70%? I think lagun aro still not up there in terms of people with vote rights, no? But you work there so you probably know better

According to their FAQs: “En las cooperativas del área Industria el porcentaje de socios supera el 80%.”

That excludes the other areas (Finance, Retail and Knowledge) and the non-coop companies in the Industry area.

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From the article: At Mondragon, there are agreed-upon wage ratios between executive work and field or factory work which earns a minimum wage. These ratios range from 3:1 to 9:1 in different cooperatives and average 5:1. That is, the general manager of an average Mondragon cooperative earns no more than 5 times as much as the theoretical minimum wage paid in their cooperative. For most workers, this ratio is smaller…

The interesting thing about this wage ratio is they had to increase it in the beginning of the cooperative because very few people were willing to take more responsibility for little more pay. So maybe there is a study to be done about what could be the optimum wage ratio that allows a company to attract top talent for management positions and at the same time is not perceived as injust and exploitative by the lower…

top talent +/- makes far beyond what regular workers would perceive as unjust.

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Every definition of "localness" is also a "made up geographical boundary" so I fail to see the distinction. It is precisely "it's from here" that my argument applied to. I.e. a supermarket advertising "it's from here" produce is not xenophobic. From my experience, Spain is actually one of the countries in Europe where it is extremely hard to find local produce. Almost everywhere else I can find specific aisle for "it…

I don't get the ecological argument. Small batch local produce has to be quite a bit less efficient than large-scale production. Transportation has to be a small fraction of the total impact?

Someone linked an article below pointing this is an oversimplification, but yes, importing produce from another continent (e.g. California when Spain has better climate for that) tends to be bad.
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