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Re: Can We Have Prosperity Without Growth?

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Yeah, we had a guy at LBNL who was a big OS2 fan. Worked fine for me, and I do have a fairly heavy coastal accent. Mind you it worked in a big, loud industrial facility. I thought the previous KNN based approaches worked better than the RNN based ones. Which is more or less my point here. The main piece of "progress" we got was the result of a giant corporation having a large corpus of data. The actual technology has…

Knn works better with little data, rnn with lots of data. But we do have lots of data - that, too, is part of the progress. Also progress is non-linear; and the real world impact is huge, though we may not always like it (social media & content algorithms have literally changed the world, influenced elections and sparked literal revolutions). Driverless trucks would be a huge shift, and it’s not unconcievable that we…

I don't claim there is NO progress; just that it's extremely weak compared to the huge triumphs of, say 1820 -> 1970.

re: face recognition: Viola Jones is almost 20 years old (we've been talking about 20 years periods). Eigenfaces is over 30 years old.

I don't believe in Driverless trucks, and it is emblematic of current year whenever I talk about technological progress, people bring up something that only marketing departments claim actually exists in the corporeal world.

FWIIW by "KNN" I don't mean the O(n^2) classic; the thing Google was using before was a bit more sophisticated than that, and it worked just fine. For some languages it worked better than the "advanced" RNN version of things.

Re: Can We Have Prosperity Without Growth?

#342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Knn works better with little data, rnn with lots of data. But we do have lots of data - that, too, is part of the progress. Also progress is non-linear; and the real world impact is huge, though we may not always like it (social media & content algorithms have literally changed the world, influenced elections and sparked literal revolutions). Driverless trucks would be a huge shift, and it’s not unconcievable that we…

I don't claim there is NO progress; just that it's extremely weak compared to the huge triumphs of, say 1820 -> 1970. re: face recognition: Viola Jones is almost 20 years old (we've been talking about 20 years periods). Eigenfaces is over 30 years old. I don't believe in Driverless trucks, and it is emblematic of current year whenever I talk about technological progress, people bring up something that only marketing…

Now I'm starting to doubt your knowledge.

How exactly do you do face recognition with Viola Jones? Nevermind an accurate-enough version to be used for biometric identification... just one that can distinguish you in your photo collection.

Re: Can We Have Prosperity Without Growth?

#343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't claim there is NO progress; just that it's extremely weak compared to the huge triumphs of, say 1820 -> 1970. re: face recognition: Viola Jones is almost 20 years old (we've been talking about 20 years periods). Eigenfaces is over 30 years old. I don't believe in Driverless trucks, and it is emblematic of current year whenever I talk about technological progress, people bring up something that only marketing…

Now I'm starting to doubt your knowledge. How exactly do you do face recognition with Viola Jones? Nevermind an accurate-enough version to be used for biometric identification... just one that can distinguish you in your photo collection.

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