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Re: Reasons not to become famous

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Post by j7ake »

speedgoose wrote: post #104
j7ake wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which societies are in a situation where a normal job supports a spouse, children, and aging parents? Most people want to be in a financial situation where they can support more than just themselves.

The spouse can work, we are not in the 1960s anymore. But even if she does not work, you can have a happy life in many Europeans countries.

This suggests that the cost of living adjusted salaries of today is half of what they were in 1960s if two people need to work now versus when only one needed to.

Also immigrating to a country with good social benefits does not solve the need to take care of elders and relatives , which would not benefit from the social system of the country to which you would immigrate

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Post by forgetfulusr »

engineeringwoke wrote: post #50
adventured wrote: post #32

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> Why trying to become rich? Because there is an unlimited number of things you can do with it. You're limited only by time and your imagination. I've never understood the premise I'm responding to, it doesn't make sense, unless a person has zero ambition and zero creativity - and I don't think that's true of anyone. I could never have enough money. I could never run out of good things to use it on. Give me $100 tril…

The structure of this comment gives the (very American) idea that you want to become rich so you can save the world. You really just want power.

It is a useful illusion to have while destroying it. Hey, we will fix this in 10 years with our billions. It is a huge pill we incidentally forget we swallow daily. No need to remind.

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Post by matz1 »

keiferski wrote: post #76
balfirevic wrote: post #66

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> The idea that taking steroids automatically gives you muscles is false. You still have to work out hard and often. No, that is incorrect: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 A relevant quote from here (which examines the above study): https://www.strongerbyscience.com/the-science-of-steroids/ The group that took testosterone without exercise gained just as much, if not more, muscle mass than t…

Interesting read, thanks for the link. It's a pretty complex post and with some unconventional conclusions. Especially about the power of placebos. It still seems suspect to me, though, as there is virtually zero discussion on the negative aspects of steroid use. The post is entitled The Science of Steroids: The Physiology and Psychology of How Steroids Make You Stronger . In any case, I was more referring to the com…

It is a common misconception that the only way to be jacked is by hard work.

Re: Reasons not to become famous

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Post by matz1 »

keiferski wrote: post #63
eru wrote: post #61

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Sorry, I wasn't expressing myself very clearly. I was saying that most physiques are easier to reach with steroids; and some are only achievable with steroids, ie achievable at all. (The 'at all' wasn't about effort, but achievability.) For an untrained person, getting to the Fight Club look takes quite a bit of training, and then cutting. Just cutting without any muscles won't give you that look.

> I was saying that most physiques are easier to reach with steroids; Sure, this is somewhat true, but the difference isn't enough to be worth the side effects, unless you're going for the huge bodybuilder physique. Diet, exercise and time will get you results that 99% of people find impressive. > and some are only achievable with steroids, ie achievable at all. True, but these sort of physiques are definitely not th…

>but these sort of physiques are definitely not the kind that are perceived as desirable

The trick is you do not tell them its a result of steroids.

Re: Reasons not to become famous

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Post by swat535 »

dman wrote: post #117
ikeboy wrote: post #102

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My understanding is even without fame, if you get anywhere interesting in the business world you'll need to get comfortable with litigation. Every wealthy person is entangled in it, even people you've never heard of that "only" have 50 million.

This is an eye opener, I didnt realize it was that bad.

I personally know some "law firms" (notice the quotes) that specialize in bogus class action lawsuits.

They just gather whatever random evidence they can, from news paperclips to emails and then threaten big companies.

Then quickly settle for ~700k-2M as a cash grab instead of going to court. Majority of big companies pay up instead of going to court.

To cut costs, these firms also operate on only free interns and maybe have 1 or 2 actual lawyers.

Re: Reasons not to become famous

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Post by jniedrauer »

speedgoose wrote: post #9
Expez wrote: post #6

The post has a good quote from Bill Murray: > I always want to say to people who want to be rich and famous: ‘try being rich first.’ See if that doesn’t cover most of it. There’s not much downside to being rich, other than paying taxes and having your relatives ask you for money. But when you become famous, you end up with a 24-hour job. . . . The only good thing about fame is that I’ve gotten out of a couple of spee…

Why trying to become rich? Once you have enough money to have a great quality of life without stress, having more money isn't improving much your happiness. Sometimes it makes it worse. However trying to become rich can be very difficult, tiresome, and disappointing.

Money is life force in a quantifiable form. We literally trade life for money. If you have a drive to accomplish something greater than you alone could accomplish in a lifetime, then you need to amass capital so you can buy other peoples time and energy.

Re: Reasons not to become famous

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Post by sneak »

woofie11 wrote: post #36

Law suits. The big one missing is law suits. That's a higher level of fame than this blogger has hit. That includes: 1) Nuts and idiots. For example, people who genuinely believe what you're doing is out to get them. 2) Jackals and vultures. People want what you've built, and see the legal system as a good way of extorting you to get it. I hit this level of fame, and quickly backed down from anything which might give…

One of the mitigating strategies here is to have a liability waiver that people sign to enter your office or home. Mine also has an NDA with a nondisparagement provision.

It has been useful for dating, too.

Re: Reasons not to become famous

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Post by mam2 »

swat535 wrote: post #125
dman wrote: post #117

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This is an eye opener, I didnt realize it was that bad.

I personally know some "law firms" (notice the quotes) that specialize in bogus class action lawsuits. They just gather whatever random evidence they can, from news paperclips to emails and then threaten big companies. Then quickly settle for ~700k-2M as a cash grab instead of going to court. Majority of big companies pay up instead of going to court. To cut costs, these firms also operate on only free interns and ma…

Seems like a nice side project

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Post by mordymoop »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #106

The last time I wrote a mild critique about Tim Ferriss online, someone scoured the internet to reverse engineer my personal identity and sent an e-mail to my personal e-mail account to debate with me. (I have since switched to anonymous handles). I can only imagine what it's like for Tim Ferriss himself. If you're not familiar with Tim Ferriss, there are several reasons why he's more attractive to dangerous follower…

Ferriss also frequently gives instructions on how to send cold emails or make cold calls to influential people for personal advantage. He’s strongly selecting for and maybe even actively creating the kind of person who will be predisposed to harass him.
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