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Name half a dozen who've managed to keep it anon for a few years while remaining famous. The only one that comes to mind is _why.
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Reasons not to become famous
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#72Hypothesis: On twitter, when your follower count exceeds the number you're following, you become a little nutty. I've noticed this odd trend where if people gain a lot of twitter followers, then often their views become reinforced to the point that outsiders look at their tweets and wonder what happened to make them express such ideas. But there's bias here: for tweets like these to be noticed, they need to be seen.…
I got my follows close to 50k, but Twitter seems to squelch my posts a lot. Doubtless due to the flavor of views expressed. Or maybe because I've never paid to boost anything. And then I realized, as with TFA, that attaining the notoriety of the BigNames wasn't worth the hassle, and for this reason not cited in the article: As we lurch toward a "social credit" system, 20 years of stupid gags from Slashdot to Twitter…
Q.E.D.
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Groupies
Just replace with gold diggers?
Entirely different. Groupies aren't aiming to leave the encounter with anything material. They're after you. They desire you. A gold digger is financially motivated. They desire the money. If they could cut you out of the equation and just get the money they would. You're on the opposite side of the desired/desirer dynamic with gold diggers.
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I made lots of money but always felt rejected/ignored by society. So I ended up lonely. I was sold a dream that become financially well off and affluent and women will flock to you - it never happened! I stayed a non smoker, non drinker because I consider these uncessary risks. I don't see any upside Aced the classes, did good in sports but still become Mr. Noone. But lately, I got into body building and started usin…
The majority of the most "desirable" men in the world have lean, muscular physiques, not bodybuilder physiques. Think Brad Pitt in Fight Club. So, if your main reason for using steroids is to attract women - seriously reconsider, as your premises are wrong.
I never said I am after bodybuilder physique, I mentioned I am after "fight club" look only but little more defined I'd say. (think Henry Cavil in superman)
I've done enough research to know women find huge body a turn off.
I trained 6 years in a local gym without ever achieving that fight club look and within 3 months after steroid use, I reached there and surpassed my expectations.
When I started - I had patchy beard and face with no well defined jaw. After steroid use - I've now full beard and square jaw (I chew chewing in gym which I copied from Arnold) but not sure if chewing made my jaw bigger or steroid.
Achieving low body fat without losing your muscle on calorie restricted diet is hard as you end up losing some muscles and some fat - steroid makes it easier to put on muscles and get low body fat.
Ofc, there are side effects but imho they are worth it for me.
My HDL levels went down and LDL went up and arterial plaque might build up and I might die from stroke. My heart might become large and weak. But there is also a chance that I might not have any problem at all - here I am gambling with my life. Skin have got thinner but no difference in hair, not gone bald so far others might not be this lucky but who knows.
Also, there are things I am curious about, if you guys know please answer:
If steroid mimicks testosterone. How is using steroid different than a man having naturally high testosterone level which produces androgenic and anabolic effects?
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Why trying to become rich? Once you have enough money to have a great quality of life without stress, having more money isn't improving much your happiness. Sometimes it makes it worse. However trying to become rich can be very difficult, tiresome, and disappointing.
> Why trying to become rich? Once you have enough money to have a great quality of life without stress Generally speaking, to me being rich (disclaimer: I'm not) means having that kind of money today and the confidence that, no matter what happens (barring large scale events like wars or asteroids) I will still have it for the rest of my life.
This does not exist.
The moment you have money there is people out there that want to take it. It has always been, there is this part on the Bible that says that when you have money, there will be robbers making holes in your walls to take it. That was thousands of years ago.
It is human nature.
For me, being really rich is that you know the way to make wealth(not money) when you need it. This knowledge is more useful than the outcome of it.
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> From all I've read, steroids do help you achieve your fitness-based aesthetic goals with less effort (or at all). That isn't how steroids work. In fact, it's almost the opposite - they optimize the body's natural process of repairing muscles. They also reduce inflammation, which allows you to train more with less recovery time. The idea that taking steroids automatically gives you muscles is false. You still have t…
> The idea that taking steroids automatically gives you muscles is false. You still have to work out hard and often. No, that is incorrect: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101 A relevant quote from here (which examines the above study): https://www.strongerbyscience.com/the-science-of-steroids/ The group that took testosterone without exercise gained just as much, if not more, muscle mass than t…
Interesting read, thanks for the link. It's a pretty complex post and with some unconventional conclusions. Especially about the power of placebos. It still seems suspect to me, though, as there is virtually zero discussion on the negative aspects of steroid use. The post is entitled The Science of Steroids: The Physiology and Psychology of How Steroids Make You Stronger.
In any case, I was more referring to the common perception that taking steroids will make you jacked without doing anything.
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#77Hypothesis: On twitter, when your follower count exceeds the number you're following, you become a little nutty. I've noticed this odd trend where if people gain a lot of twitter followers, then often their views become reinforced to the point that outsiders look at their tweets and wonder what happened to make them express such ideas. But there's bias here: for tweets like these to be noticed, they need to be seen.…
> Hypothesis: On twitter, when your follower count exceeds the number you're following, you become a little nutty. I follow 8 people, and have 1029 followers. Following this hypothesis, I would be batshit crazy. I don't think this is a very good hypothesis.
Yeah I tend to associate having even followers/following being people that are trying to build up their account by following loads of people hoping to get followed back.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why trying to become rich? Once you have enough money to have a great quality of life without stress Generally speaking, to me being rich (disclaimer: I'm not) means having that kind of money today and the confidence that, no matter what happens (barring large scale events like wars or asteroids) I will still have it for the rest of my life.
This does not exist. The moment you have money there is people out there that want to take it. It has always been, there is this part on the Bible that says that when you have money, there will be robbers making holes in your walls to take it. That was thousands of years ago. It is human nature. For me, being really rich is that you know the way to make wealth(not money) when you need it. This knowledge is more usefu…
If you have a few millions in an index fund and are discrete about it, no one is going to take it.
There are many rich people who live ordinary lives.
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#79Anecdotal, but have known someone who because famous. They like getting their emails responded to; but they'd rather not get the publicity.
This was cemented when I was walking with them had to take a detour to avoid a news crew that was looking for them.
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#80I think I do not want fame, but it's obviously easier to navigate some circles if your name is known: you don't have to introduce yourself, nor prove other people what you are worth.
This works on many scales: from a small team at work, where it's much easier to co-ordinate if everyone knows each other's strong points. It's also great for arguments: if you know that a person is very knowledgeable on a topic, you won't ask them to substantiate their claims, which speeds up the process.
I've been toying with the idea of creating multiple identities for multiple areas I'm engaging in: use my real name for socializing in real life with close acquaintances as well as paperwork, but maybe use a pseudonym for publishing papers, another for engaging in open-source communities, and online in general. I'm happy to say it's quite hard to find pictures of myself online, but it would be even better if they didn't come attached to a meaningful name.
I'm about to submit a paper with my real name this evening, and I am a bit unsure about this. Any experience on using pen names in that domain specifically?
The issue I have is that the longer you wait, the harder it is to change (which can also be a good thing: to change names is to get a fresh start).
It all boils down to reputation and identity somehow, two hot (and hard) topics in (distributed) social networks.