Live data from Hacker News

Living without a SIM card

habd.as

101–110 of 300 posts

Re: Living without a SIM card

#101

> …it's the only thing which has prevented me from having to continually make international calls from a friends phone By relying on other people it is possible to do without many things. However, unless you have other ways of signaling sufficient status or wealth (such as being a digital nomad living abroad in a lower income country), people you continuously rely on for essentials might start treating you with a lit…

Strikes me as a feature. Who really wants to be judged as a person by what they own rather than who and what they are?

But it's not what they own, it's what they impose on others.

The implication here isn't that they're being judged for not having a phone (with a SIM card), and that they're constantly relying and leaching from others. That can be annoying, and people tend to not like annoying people?

Re: Living without a SIM card

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> make sure you don’t leech off of those around you I think that's a toxic attitude. Picking up the phone for someone else every now and then is really not a big of a hassle. Obviously I don't know the whole situation, but in general I do think that one should be ready to do such minor favors for another human being without calling them a leech.

Especially because it wasn't that long ago (by my standards) that not everyone had a personal phone in their pocket. In fact, only 33 years ago my parents had to call the neighbours 3 doors further to call my aunt to notify her (and my grandparents who happen to be visiting her) of my birth. Although, I admit as someone with a speech impediment, I absolutely loath using the phone. But it's a necessity even as a softw…

Or when you (effectively) work night shift, and some #$%#$%# telemarketer decides to call at 9am.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#104

> …it's the only thing which has prevented me from having to continually make international calls from a friends phone By relying on other people it is possible to do without many things. However, unless you have other ways of signaling sufficient status or wealth (such as being a digital nomad living abroad in a lower income country), people you continuously rely on for essentials might start treating you with a lit…

Strikes me as a feature. Who really wants to be judged as a person by what they own rather than who and what they are?

He will be judged for his actions - becoming a burden to other people by choice

Re: Living without a SIM card

#105

He mention the risk of having stuff injected in the header while being connected to an isp. But doesn’t care about public hotspots? Personally I would rather trust a couple ISP’s than random hotspots.

Nor the fact that they recommend using free services that monetize through ads, especially call and text providers.

Any free service should ring major, major alarms for any one advocating for privacy.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#106
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is .. remarkably sensible, and a good example of using the secure elements of the SIM card for the intended purpose. Makes me wonder why more places don't do this.

Why does this have to involve a SIM card though? Why not use the device itself, e.g. authenticator?

BankId works even with non-smart phones. Plus it’s storage of private keys is more secure than the crypto-storage on cheaper smart-phones.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#107
Nobody is pointing at the elephant in the room:

GSM, WiFi, TCP/IP, SIM cards, debit cards could provide strong privacy for everybody by default.

Requiring random, temporary, untracked addresses by law is possible and achievable.

Yet, society accepts corporate surveillance for the masses and privacy for the powerful and wealthy.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#108
post #11

> …it's the only thing which has prevented me from having to continually make international calls from a friends phone By relying on other people it is possible to do without many things. However, unless you have other ways of signaling sufficient status or wealth (such as being a digital nomad living abroad in a lower income country), people you continuously rely on for essentials might start treating you with a lit…

My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.

That's on his mother not him. Maybe he did this specifically to try to have some breathing room from his mother?

Re: Living without a SIM card

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially because it wasn't that long ago (by my standards) that not everyone had a personal phone in their pocket. In fact, only 33 years ago my parents had to call the neighbours 3 doors further to call my aunt to notify her (and my grandparents who happen to be visiting her) of my birth. Although, I admit as someone with a speech impediment, I absolutely loath using the phone. But it's a necessity even as a softw…

Or when you (effectively) work night shift, and some #$%#$%# telemarketer decides to call at 9am.

Or a friend forgeting about jetlag ringing you on a sunday morning when you were sleeping happily (just happened to me this morning :-D )

Re: Living without a SIM card

#110
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strikes me as a feature. Who really wants to be judged as a person by what they own rather than who and what they are?

He will be judged for his actions - becoming a burden to other people by choice

This thread is insane... How did we go from someone borrowing others' phone on occasion to these ideas of Social Darwinism? At this rate, someone is going to suggest euthanasia within two more comments tops.

For most people, lending their phone won't even incur marginal costs considering the trend towards flat rates.

If you find yourself being annoyed by such situations, note that these feelings are bound to make you miserable, and are unlikely to have much of an affect on the target of your anger. I've found that it is far easier than I thought to just consciously decide not to get worked up such issues, and that it's remarkably effective at improving mood and social life.

Post reply on HN