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Living without a SIM card

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Re: Living without a SIM card

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> SMS 2FA is a joke tho. Yes, everyone knows. But it's better than nothing.

Not always. If the provider can be social engineered into granting you access to the account after proving access to that number then I’m not sure “better than nothing” is that solid.

Better than having a strong password bypassed using shoddy recovery procedures.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#93
post #19

Without a SIM card it would be a lot harder to do my taxes, access my online bank, check my insurance, etc., because the SIM card is used to veriy my identity using a solution called BankID. ( https://www.bankid.no/en/company/ ) It's a lot easier then the alternative with OTP codes, especially since BankID is now supported by a lot of different sites and services. From government, banking, phone companies, etc.

> because the SIM card is used to veriy my identity using a solution called BankID.

That's BankID over mobile. You can also use a key fob like this[1] + a password to authenticate. I use it when traveling and using a prepaid SIM occasionally.

[1] https://bank.obos.no/globalassets/bilder-alternative-str/sig...

Re: Living without a SIM card

#94
post #7

use tor, brave, vpn whatever. use prepaid unregistered sim. get online when you want, live :-) or just cut off you leg to fix your toe.

Getting a prepaid unregistered SIM is no longer possible in an increasing number of countries. I think most of Europe requires identification to buy a prepaid SIM.

I have not had an issue buying a prepaid sim in eastern europe AND EU is a "free roaming" zone, so if it works in the Eastern parts, it's going to work everywhere else as well.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#95

My First reaction was that it sounds awesome and I want to try it for a view month. Then I realized that most German delivery services require a phone number and email address (like when you order a new shelf or phone or computer or ...). Then I realized that the messenger I use to communicate with my family bases identity on the phone number (not my choice, but nothing I can easily change). Then I realize that my ma…

Denmark is pretty similar to Germany, in that a ton of services require you to have a phone number. Technically there’s rarely a reason for you to give out your number, and for stuff I don’t care about I’ll enter the number of a loan company or the number of a telcos support.

Still, I actually somewhat concerned that you’re basically not allowed to not have a phone. No one will actually call you anymore, but they do want your phone number.

I can’t think of a single service that would require you to have a phone, it’s just some weak attempt at “authenticating” you, via someone else.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#96
post #19

Without a SIM card it would be a lot harder to do my taxes, access my online bank, check my insurance, etc., because the SIM card is used to veriy my identity using a solution called BankID. ( https://www.bankid.no/en/company/ ) It's a lot easier then the alternative with OTP codes, especially since BankID is now supported by a lot of different sites and services. From government, banking, phone companies, etc.

Is that the same as BankID in sweden? That is not 'connected' to the sim card, but to the device itself.

In Switzerland we have MobileID which is basically the same thing as Norway's Bank If : using a sim card as a smart card.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#97
post #36
post #11

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My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.

This is really hard to do. I don't live off the grid by any means - there's a million ways to contact me, e.g. text message, calling, Signal messages, emails, etc. However, I don't use Whatsapp in a country where the vast majority of people does. I'm fine with missing things if people don't feel like using any of the methods I have to get in touch with me. However, instead of either not bothering or using one of the…

You're creating extra cognitive load for people. If there's one thing behavioral psychology has reliably taught us (in spite of the repeatability issues on a few findings), it is that our brains are wired to avoid cognitive load as much as possible.

The cost of putting cognitive load is many people will choose not to pay it and that cost is instead borne by your partner

Would you walk through wet mud if a grass or concrete alternative path is available? That's pretty much what your contacts are doing

Re: Living without a SIM card

#98

One major advantage is the impact on phone battery life - partly because various services aren't repeatedly pinging over the mobile network (especially in "notspots"), WiFi tends not to burn through battery. And partly because it tends to change your behaviour to do more focused things (the phone isn't constantly trying to distract you as it often can't, so you don't then waste time and power on these distractions).…

I got a smart watch after being staunchly anti-smartwatch, because I can now leave my phone at home. It was a compromise that allowed me to stay connected via phone while not having a distraction-factory in my pocket. I don't have anything but the phone app and weather on there, and I have a whitelist so only friends and family can contact me. I delay text messages 'til I get home if I can, and I get maybe 2 phone calls a week.

My biggest issue with the phone was it could distract me with a notification, and I could dive into it for too long after dealing with the notification. That doesn't happen on the watch because frankly, they can't do all that much and they are a pain in the ass to use for anything more than a quick sentence.

Could I just "be a better person" and be disciplined with my phone? Totally. But I've tried numerous times, so this is my method and it's been working well.

Re: Living without a SIM card

#99
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My sister’s former boyfriend used to carry a phone without a SIM. His mom ended up calling my sister or our landline to check up on her son. It was annoying AF. Feel free to live off the grid, but please make sure you don’t leech off of those around you.

The example doesn't quite seem to connect to the moral. Maybe he didn't want his mom to call him. If a third party calls you to inquire about me, why is that my problem?

Because you care about people around you and don’t want them to suffer because of indirect consequences of your actions...?

Re: Living without a SIM card

#100

Some of the inconveniences listed aren't really a thing: For example, you can use google services on devices with no sim so long as you have it connected to wifi. I figured this out because i had a new phone that wouldn't accept the SIM size, so I carried both that and the working phone with the sim for a short time. Google Maps and Open street maps works offline, but you need to be online to, say, get driving direct…

> For example, you can use google services on devices with no sim Considering there have been WiFi-only Android tablets since forever this cannot possibly be news to anyone?

It's news to me, I thought you needed (in the UK) a phone number to register with Google. They send you a text message as part of onboarding (or did last I tried). That's common to most online social apps now, perhaps all of them?
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