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Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Re: Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Post by platz »

zozbot234 wrote: post #13
clSTophEjUdRanu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not only games. The Wayland/X/Nvidia fiasco is killin me. To use Wayland and gestures I need to basically ignore the graphics card and run everything via integrated. I love Linux but I also love when things just work and I don't have the time or energy to use my computer as a foss/Linux zealot ideology battleground.

Many experienced Linux users just avoid any Nvidia hardware at this point. Of course you might be trying to reuse existing hardware, but anything new you can just buy with AMD or Intel.

Can you get that on a Lenovo laptop?

Re: Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Post by bluedays »

IshKebab wrote: post #11
axaxs wrote: post #5

As a 20 or so year long linux as a desktop user, I've had my hopes up so many times that more people would embrace Linux. It's always been about the games, largely. Hell we had id's stuff running, and there was even a company porting Blizzard stuff if I remember right. This is the first time I've been genuinely enthused that "it's happenening", and I cannot be more thankful to the Wine team and Valve.

I would say it used to be about games. But now many people use laptops and Linux has pretty terrible support for most of them. It often "works", but you'll usually have some issue with bluetooth or wifi or the trackpad, and good luck getting anywhere near as good battery life as Windows or Mac.

Linux laptop user checking in. No problems.

Re: Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

pizza wrote: post #17

I'm guessing this doesn't work on arm64 as, classically, wine is not an emulator.. Been trying many different ways to get gaming to work on my Jetson Nano - moonlight-embedded (works, kinda janky though, and the only GPU vps provider that I've used which works is paperspace, and I'd rather not spend about a dollar an hour to play games this way, plus paperspace's west servers are in norcal and I'm in socal so the lat…

You may have better luck with qemu-user-static. This is more like a container than a full OS, so you might be able to get away with using the OpenGL driver directly.

Re: Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Post by [deleted] »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #36
IshKebab wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say it used to be about games. But now many people use laptops and Linux has pretty terrible support for most of them. It often "works", but you'll usually have some issue with bluetooth or wifi or the trackpad, and good luck getting anywhere near as good battery life as Windows or Mac.

Yeah but I found we all have the same problems with Windows these days. I watched a friend struggle to get slack to use the correct camera work on his windows 10 laptop. Another occasion, on a desktop machine problems with microphones. A few months ago I woke up and my Windows 10 desktop just decided to lock up about 10 seconds after showing the desktop. There was nothing I could do to fix it and had to reinstall win…

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Re: Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Post by endemic »

platz wrote: post #41
zozbot234 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many experienced Linux users just avoid any Nvidia hardware at this point. Of course you might be trying to reuse existing hardware, but anything new you can just buy with AMD or Intel.

Can you get that on a Lenovo laptop?

Lenovo does make laptops with AMD hardware; some even within the ThinkPad line. e.g. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser...

Re: Proton 5.0, a package to run Windows games on Linux

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Post by oliwarner »

alkonaut wrote: post #19
axaxs wrote: post #5

As a 20 or so year long linux as a desktop user, I've had my hopes up so many times that more people would embrace Linux. It's always been about the games, largely. Hell we had id's stuff running, and there was even a company porting Blizzard stuff if I remember right. This is the first time I've been genuinely enthused that "it's happenening", and I cannot be more thankful to the Wine team and Valve.

Even if I was a linux desktop user otherwise, I’d still prefer booting to a windows partition just to never have to wonder if the drivers are eating 5% of my FPS, or if that recent crash maybe doesn’t happen to everyone and it’s just me seeing it on Linux. Games (of the normal kind) are pretty special in that you literally aren’t doing anything else simultaneously, and you are probably running them long enough that a…

I suspect we value different things because from my perspective that 5% seems entirely worth not putting up with Windows' nonsense.

Over and above not needing to shut down everything, or tangle up my system in a complex VM.

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