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Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by 7thaccount »

jslabovitz wrote: post #107
jakobegger wrote: post #31

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I hate everything about CDs. The flimsy jewel cases that break all the time, the tiny artwork, how easily CDs scratch, how choosing a song requires clicking stupid buttons, the delay after inserting CDs, the high pitched whine of the motor, the sound of the stepper motor as it moves the laser... When I listen to music, I want to slow down and relax, and taking a record out of the sleeve is just so much nicer than fid…

> ... how choosing a song requires clicking stupid buttons, the delay after inserting CDs, the high pitched whine of the motor, the sound of the stepper motor as it moves the laser... Some of the earliest CD players are superbly constructed — and have some of the best sound. I have a couple of Sony decks from the mid-1980s that are quiet, quick, and have excellent controls, complete with 20-odd direct buttons for ind…

What make model do you use?

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by noisem4ker »

basicplus2 wrote: post #43
eganist wrote: post #2

I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

The microphones faithfully follow the soundwaves.. the A class amplifiers faithfully follow the sound waves.. the cutting needle faithfully follows the sound waves... the grooves in the record faithfully follow the soundwaves.. the needle on the record faithfully follow the soundwaves.. the speakers faithfully follow the sound waves... the soundwaves faithfully follow the soundwaves... Even with a crackle and pop, yo…

You forgot tape in the recording chain.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by jslabovitz »

7thaccount wrote: post #111
jslabovitz wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... how choosing a song requires clicking stupid buttons, the delay after inserting CDs, the high pitched whine of the motor, the sound of the stepper motor as it moves the laser... Some of the earliest CD players are superbly constructed — and have some of the best sound. I have a couple of Sony decks from the mid-1980s that are quiet, quick, and have excellent controls, complete with 20-odd direct buttons for ind…

What make model do you use?

Sony CDP-705ESD, Sony CDP-707ESD.

Ogle here: http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-CDP-557ESD.html

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by scarejunba »

hnuser123456 wrote: post #51
scarejunba wrote: post #44

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That's probably just the groups you circle in. Our group chats were all buzzing after Lane8's latest release. People had opinions, posted their favourite remix, talked about songs that evoked similar feelings.

I love Anjunabeats, Above&Beyond, and I really dig what Lane8 is doing. "Howling Hand" seems to stick out for me and I've added it to the more relaxed of my top-tier playlists. But overall it's just a little too chill for me. Have you heard the ABGT350 Deep warmup set? It's a nice journey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5ZhKyOxZns

That was dope. Thanks, man. I wasn't able to make ABGT350 but This Never Happened in Oakland was pretty damn dope. I like the no-phones gimmick too. Brightest Lights is awesome. I like the original edit the most https://open.spotify.com/track/49jWS1fz7QZQa4mBIqB0mu?si=-9R...

If you haven't been, I recommend the Anjuna weekender they're going to have in 2021 at The Gorge.

Dude, Brainwasher is this track I think I've been searching for for a while. Mega thanks. That with Black Hole.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by scarejunba »

bonestamp2 wrote: post #47
scarejunba wrote: post #44

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That's probably just the groups you circle in. Our group chats were all buzzing after Lane8's latest release. People had opinions, posted their favourite remix, talked about songs that evoked similar feelings.

Fair enough, and I agree it is my groups. But, it didn't seem to used to matter which groups you were in. Sure, more than just the medium changed. But the Vinyl ritual is maybe even more rewarding today than it was when it was the popular option. PS - I Loved Brightest Lights. I am also looking forward to Porter Robinson's next album -- it's been a long time since the last album and I didn't love this first single in…

Haha, wow, you made me think if there's any EDM or house vinyl and it blows my mind that this exists!

Honestly, I think Porter Robinson is sort of like Baynk in that they're both way better live. The latter especially feels less... 'tropical' live. Good stuff, though.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by eganist »

magicalhippo wrote: post #89
eganist wrote: post #2

I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

For me there are two aspects. First is directly related to your question, which is that vinyl has stricter limitations on the mastering[1] compared to digital. Some might prefer the sound that results from these limitations, at least when well done. But for me it's mostly about the ceremony around playing a record. You have to actively participate, preparing the player, and you sit down and listen to the record in li…

ah!

I'll bet dollars that this is the unqualifiable difference between vinyl-analog v. digital; if there are specific mastering constraints, it sounds like e.g. the timbre of certain sounds/instruments would be affected, likely to the benefit of our ears since the sounds most impacted tend to give the harshness that some people complain about with digital presentation.

> The vinyl medium does not “like” a lot of high frequency information — brightness/hotness of certain high frequencies are the most common issue we see on the audio masters we receive. Instruments such as hi-hats, cymbals and tambourines often cause distortion if all high end is allowed to pass through to the cutting lathe. Vocals that contain a lot of “SSSS” sounds (sibilance) will also cause a distorted sound on your master recording if not properly treated.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by eganist »

chadcmulligan wrote: post #26
eganist wrote: post #2

I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

Don't start looking for the people who think crt monitors are better for gaming then - https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/

There's a specific technical reason (latency) for why Melee players prefer Sony Trinitron displays over anything modern.

Likewise, magicalhippo helped me understand the specific technical reason for why some people describe vinyls as being warmer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22275611

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Post by cbsks »

7thaccount wrote: post #109
tomduncalf wrote: post #86

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I suspect you didn’t use it for long enough for it to develop a good profile of your tastes. I’ve been using it for 5 years and the recommendations are my favourite feature, and on the whole very impressive. I’d consider myself into quite underground music (electronic/techno, nothing mainstream or commercial at all, I’d wager even most people who consider themselves into electronic music wouldn’t have heard of a lot…

Is there a good service that doesn't require FB?

? Spotify doesn’t require Facebook

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by OzzyB »

eganist wrote: post #2

I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

Have you ever tried to watch a live event on a streaming service like YouTube, and found yourself a few milliseconds behind the action? Have you ever tried watching digital TV have frames dropped completely because the signal got weak?

If you were going analog, you would be watching real live action, and if the signal got weak you'd still be watching but there might be some "screen fizz".

Vinyl is like that :D what you see is what you get, the sound is right there in front of you, all you need is a needle -- much like all you needed was an aerial in olden times.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Post by Vinnl »

7thaccount wrote: post #109
tomduncalf wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect you didn’t use it for long enough for it to develop a good profile of your tastes. I’ve been using it for 5 years and the recommendations are my favourite feature, and on the whole very impressive. I’d consider myself into quite underground music (electronic/techno, nothing mainstream or commercial at all, I’d wager even most people who consider themselves into electronic music wouldn’t have heard of a lot…

Is there a good service that doesn't require FB?

How about Spotify? It doesn't require FB.
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