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Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

Acquired taste. Like when somebody loves beer/wine and other person thinks it tastes horrible. Also, "when I was young, everything was better" effect.

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

It makes listening to music an experience. Similar to the focus and immersion holding a heavy hardcover provides over attempting to read a PDF on your phone.

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It’s a hobby like anything else. Why do people prefer stick/manual to automatic? Same thing imo. It’s just a little more “real” and involved with a hobbyist setup. I do enjoy the sound a little bit better but also the mastering is often different between digital and analog.

Manual transmission has clear advantage in responsiveness. Being used to manual, I've just driven an automatic for three days. Despite having 50% more power than my old car, it felt terribly slow because of the gear shift delays.

Depends on the car. Try a decent sports car with a performance gearbox. My previous car was an m140i. 0-60 for the automatic is actually stated as faster for the automatic gearbox, as the car is better at shifting than a human.

I don’t think Ferrari even make manual gearboxes with clutches any more?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a hobby like anything else. Why do people prefer stick/manual to automatic? Same thing imo. It’s just a little more “real” and involved with a hobbyist setup. I do enjoy the sound a little bit better but also the mastering is often different between digital and analog.

Manual transmission has clear advantage in responsiveness. Being used to manual, I've just driven an automatic for three days. Despite having 50% more power than my old car, it felt terribly slow because of the gear shift delays.

No, manual transmissions are a clear loser when it comes to responsiveness. You have to manually disengage the clutch, manually change the gear and manually engage the clutch.

For comparison, the dual clutch transmission in the Nissan GT-R can shift in 0.15 seconds and that's a 10+ year old car. The ZF 8HP, which is a conventional torque converter transmission used for example in the new BMW M5, is apparently able to do gear changes in about 0.2 seconds.

Sure, you can have an automatic that is incredibly slushy, but that's not an inherent quality to automatic transmissions.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

For me it's similar to the reason why I like having a mechanical pendulum clock on my wall. A quartz clock keeps much better time, but there's something cool about being able to see the gears turning. Vinyl isn't quite like that, but it's a lot closer than an MP3 player. There's also something about the imperfections of vinyl, the noise, clicks, and pops, that is a valuable part of the experience for me, probably because I came of age in a pre-digital world.

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

Don't start looking for the people who think crt monitors are better for gaming then - https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

Spend us$300 for a vacuum tube and small real loudspeaker, even Bluetooth play is different. Then add a vinyl from time to time, it is music all over again.

Btw may be not all human are the same. As said someone meat is ... it is not about human rights. Just music. Let us be different.

Listen differently.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

Others have given good replies and I think they're mostly correct. But... >I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me. I feel like this is the sofar unaddressed dimension. I grew up with my grandparents so I've heard a lot of vinyl by virtue of one of them having a love for classical music. When I was younger (29 atm) I felt like the au…

If you are from that era, another issues are many music is still in those vinyl. The main stream one converted. But not all.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

It’s a community activity, at least for me. I love going to record stores, discovering gems etc.

Re: Manufacturing plant fire threatens worldwide vinyl record supply

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I haven't found an objective explanation for why some populations prefer vinyl analog over any digital renditions of a sound. Can anyone share some insight? (I've listened to both, and the description of vinyl or even analog sound as being generally "warmer" never resonated with me.)

There are some genuine differences, but these are probably only discernible to a relatively small subset of humans, who have genuinely superior hearing to the rest of us - especially as we age. However, to the best of my understanding, the magic of vinyl also has to do with how some individuals consume music. From the appreciation of larger artwork on a physical medium to the act of making time for the process of lis…

Your totally on point. From an audio quality stand point, people will argue to the bone that it’s better because there is “infinite” resolution. In reality that doesn’t really matter because of the resolution things are pressed at, and since most music now a days comes from a digital source.

The way sound can differ from a digital release is in the mixing. (Since the stylus is physically moving, a mix that’s too “hot” can actually throw the needle off.) This mixing can sound better from a digital release (It could be because these engineers have more practice, or because of those physical constraints). The medium also generally sounds warmer.

As for me personally, I have a handful of records. I don’t really listen to them, but I like supporting the artist, along with having something physical to show off.

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