The number of people dying each day from this corona virus is increasing and these are official numbers so might be under reported. 29-30th Jan around 40 people were dying a day now it has reached 80-90. When you take into account the number of infected is still increasing and no real way to control the spread or treat the virus this is going to be way worse in the next few weeks.
https://voice.baidu.com/act/newpneumonia/newpneumonia
Life and Death in a Wuhan Coronavirus ICU
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#132"The most regretful thing to me was a pregnant woman from Huanggang. She was in very serious condition. Nearly 200,000 yuan (S$39,505) was spent after more than a week in the ICU. She was from the countryside, and the money for hospitalisation was borrowed from her relatives and friends. Her condition was improving after the use of Ecmo, and she was likely to survive. But her husband decided to give up. He cried for…
> I had the unchecked belief that China claiming to be a communist country would be covering medical costs.
Communism and socialism are two different things.
Communist states like China are very different than socialist states like in Europe that have free health care. Why confuse the two?
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#133Does that lead image tell you something? They are in full gear treating this guy. Would Doctors be geared up like that treating someone for the flu?
Doctors get the flu vaccine.
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#134Great article all around, worth reading as it's one of the only I've seen that are actually talking about disease progression and timeline. Some key info from the article: ---- Caixin: Based on your clinical experience, what's the disease progression of the new coronavirus? Peng: Lately I've been spending the daytime seeing patients in the ICU, then doing some research in the evenings. I just wrote a thesis. I drew o…
Should add their discussion of cytokine storms in healthy people, which appears to have a more rapid timeline > Some experts argue that the virus triggers a cytokine storm, which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults > Based on my observations, a third of patients exhibited inflammation in their whole body. It was not necessarily limited to young adults. The mechanism of a cytokine storm is about whole-b…
Look, you say inflammatory response science says steroids. But what about CBD? Maybe even THC? Let’s experiment at least,
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
You sound a lot like the Wuhan government circa late December/early January. I'm not sure what to tell you. Unless you think that this virus somehow only targets people living in China, it's only a matter of time before it takes hold in other countries. This is not one that you can simply quarantine and isolate away like SARS. This one seems to be communicable at the earliest onset of symptoms, or even perhaps before…
Its been several weeks already people are infected in several countries. Yet no sign of pandemic outside of China. I dont know what other facts you need.
First recorded patient in Wuhan was December 8. It’s been 2 months since then. Even exponential growth takes some time.
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#136Honestly if there is truth to this article it is reassuring. I've been scouring the darker corners of the internet obsessively for every seemingly reputable bit of data under the assumption that virtually anything official out of China could not be trusted. This doctor is working on the absolute worst of cases and even they, it seems, have a high overall probability of survival. Also good to see some figures on the p…
Isn’t Caixin Global a Chinese news source, almost certainly filtered? Do you have a reason to believe them more than the dark corners?
Caixin is the best Chinese news source in normal times, and at this time all Chinese news is more free to report on the virus. As someone very critical of the CCP, I'd say Caixin's reporting here is as authoritative as anywhere.
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#137> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. That is so rough, especially since some healthcare workers are now among the dead: specifically, I saw that Li Wenliang had died. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-doctor-w...
> "Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless."
The absolute definition of heroes. It blows my mind to imagine ever having that sort of selfless dedication to helping others. For all the crappy things in the world these days, it's stuff like this that gives me hope for humanity.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Saying that it's an order of magnitude less deadly than SARS doesn't exactly allay any concerns when it's still at least an order of magnitude more deadly than the flu, and probably twice as communicable. "A severe form of the cold" is the understatement of the century.
I agree, It's viral pneumonia for those over 60 and heavy smokers. China has 240M people who are 60 or older. Assuming a 2% mortality in that population and the fact that many of the younger infected have mild symptoms, 1/4 to 1/2 of these folks may be infected in the next 3-6 months. That's 1-2M fatalities.
Everyone is a heavy smoker in China; air pollution levels and all that. So that stacks the odds against them already.
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#139> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. That is so rough, especially since some healthcare workers are now among the dead: specifically, I saw that Li Wenliang had died. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-doctor-w...
Last thing the CCP needs is martyrs against the state
They briefly pronounced him undead, then dead again, IIRC.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
We had a SARS outbreak in Taiwan since we trusted the statement from Chinese government back then. This time we assume coronavirus can do person to person transmission and blocked travel to WuHan back when CCP and WHO were downplaying its ability to spread. That's how we have less cases than Japan, Korea and Hong Kong now. Recently Taiwanese people in WuHan asked for evacuation. CCP denied our request at first, then…
Do you have a source for this? Either English or Chinese can will do. Thanks.
Reuters (English)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/...
CNA (Chinese) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cna.com.tw/amp/news/firstne...