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System76 Launches Threadripper Workstations

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Re: System76 Launches Threadripper Workstations

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Post by [deleted] »

zmmmmm wrote: post #19
webpaymentsguy wrote: post #2

As far as ads go, this was the most convincing sell I've seen for a high end computer in a long time. Good job to whoever is doing the marketing.

Perhaps to their target market ... I looked at it and thought 'hmmm, 44 seconds to do a simple image transform sounds pretty slow ....'. I assume it was a very high resolution image or thousands of slices or something but without them stating those metrics it was a bit meaningless to me. edit: OK I downloaded the image and see it's gigantic ... I reckon they should at least hint at that for the folks who are not quit…

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Re: System76 Launches Threadripper Workstations

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Post by zargon »

csmajorfive wrote: post #45

I bought a System76 workstation last year. Everything about it is great except for one big thing that makes me hate using it: the air cooling is terrible and loud. My room sounds like a wind tunnel even at idle. The response at the time was to futz around with fan controller firmware and I never got anywhere. I don't understand why they don't move to liquid cooling.

In my experience it is far easier, faster, and more practical to build a silent air-cooled system than a silent water cooled one.

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Post by lonelappde »

Adutude wrote: post #13
personjerry wrote: post #4

Or build it yourself and save $2000

I bought one of their laptops a few year ago. I needed a new power supply as the cable had frayed that came w/ the unit. I wanted to get the original cable, so I called and asked "what was the original manufacturer" so I could purchase a new power supply. They would not tell me and they wanted approx. $75 for a replacement from System 76. I peeled the sticker System 76 put on the bottom and found out it was a Clevo.…

A laptop with a proprietary power supply? What does that even mean? A custom weird tip?

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Post by markbnj »

greggyb wrote: post #29
personjerry wrote: post #4

Or build it yourself and save $2000

I specced out the closest I could to my recent 3970x build. It was ~$1500 more through System76. At my current bill rate, I am barely better off financially for having built on my own. Had any hardware been defective, or if I had to troubleshoot the first boot, then I would have been better off buying. I imagine anyone who can justify a machine like this for their work will likely be in the same ballpark for bill rat…

Definitely true points, but also worth noting how much easier it is to build a reliable desktop now than just a few years ago. Their own marketing images of the thelios show how empty the case is. With everything but storage, display and power supply on the board there's little left to do beyond mounting the cpu, inserting some sticks of ram from the QVL, plugging in the power supply connectors and maybe a video card and powering up. With the exception of handling the processor everything else is well within the reach of anyone who can plug together and configure a home entertainment system imo. Five years ago, say, getting the BIOS settings right could be a little tricky but that's basically become a no-brainer too.

Re: System76 Launches Threadripper Workstations

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Post by samstave »

akasian wrote: post #17
excitednumber wrote: post #7

System 76 has pretty good customer support and help entry level folks enter the *nix market, which is cool. Their cases are kinda poop quality tho.

Can you elaborate on the specific poop? Do they just not hold up?

I have had several S76 Laptops - and all of them, the cases are plastic and very chintzy. Several had screws fall out inside the case and rattle around, but this is all Clevo's fault...

:-(

Their support has been fantastic, and although I switched back to other machines - I still would buy one.

The bang-for-the-buck on the guts was really good (cant comment on the value of this Threadripper box though...)

As an aside; the Michael Dell "How I built this" podcast ep is worth a listen...

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Post by samstave »

lonelappde wrote: post #54
Adutude wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought one of their laptops a few year ago. I needed a new power supply as the cable had frayed that came w/ the unit. I wanted to get the original cable, so I called and asked "what was the original manufacturer" so I could purchase a new power supply. They would not tell me and they wanted approx. $75 for a replacement from System 76. I peeled the sticker System 76 put on the bottom and found out it was a Clevo.…

A laptop with a proprietary power supply? What does that even mean? A custom weird tip?

See: Apple.

Re: System76 Launches Threadripper Workstations

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Post by fantyoon »

chx wrote: post #48
truncate wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a power-user, I wonder if there is any reason to not do DIY PC building (for personal use) over buying from System76. It's not hard to figure out a good configuration online (or even just whatever System76 uses in their desktops?). Basic assembly itself isn't that hard (or time consuming), once you have all the parts. And, I guess these days most people who would need a desktop at home with this configuration are…

I believe I count as a power user. Not wanting to humblebrag here but I have been using Linux since 1993, coding in Z80 assembly since 1987, x86 assembly since 1993 as well. As a university student, I have, in fact, made a little money on the side by assembling PCs in the 90s for others. Last I checked the CPU / cooler installation was way way too fragile for my liking. I might be outdated on this , I last tried like…

I have done none of these things, but have assembled 3 computers now for myself and a family member. There is nothing about CPU cooler installation that is fragile, I am not sure that you could, even if you wanted, put enough pressure onto the CPU to damage it using your CPU cooler. The only really fragile thing are the pins on the CPU which you can damage if you mishandle it. Being careful with it there is really nothing scary about it.

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Post by bcrosby95 »

markbnj wrote: post #55
greggyb wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I specced out the closest I could to my recent 3970x build. It was ~$1500 more through System76. At my current bill rate, I am barely better off financially for having built on my own. Had any hardware been defective, or if I had to troubleshoot the first boot, then I would have been better off buying. I imagine anyone who can justify a machine like this for their work will likely be in the same ballpark for bill rat…

Definitely true points, but also worth noting how much easier it is to build a reliable desktop now than just a few years ago. Their own marketing images of the thelios show how empty the case is. With everything but storage, display and power supply on the board there's little left to do beyond mounting the cpu, inserting some sticks of ram from the QVL, plugging in the power supply connectors and maybe a video card…

The hardest part has always been plugging in the annoying little speaker, light, power, reset, etc. cables into the right spots on the motherboard.
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