Does this mean that microsoft could be keeping copies of the meta data of every file on every windows computer on their servers and doing the search there?
Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
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Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#32Microsoft doesn’t build Windows with the consumer as the priority. Microsoft first, then big business, then advertisers. I used to find this aggravating but it’s better to accept it and move on.
To me, Microsoft's PR message has always amounted to "Windows users are either too busy, dumb, disorganized, impatient, or unfamiliar with their systems to know how to do things, so we try to think for them." It was amazing how much more productive and powerful I felt switching to Linux. Like, I could suddenly FIX problems without having to install some sketchy .exe or driver. Can't understand why people stick with W…
I definitely roll my eyes when people say that on Windows everything "just works".
I have to fix (or just deal with the fact that I cannot do anything about it) just as many things that break or go wrong with Windows as I do with Linux.
Hacking around with the registry is just that. A hack job to roughly get Windows to behave until the next update breaks it.
At least on Linux you have the whole system open to you and can roll back changes or apply patches with much more control.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#33The search behaves “as if” it’s using randomly-ordered keys in a random source dictionary, and it’s maddening.
If I type what seems to be the same 3 letters a few times in a row, the result is always different: one time it acts like the app isn’t even installed, another time it finds the app (first choice), another time it finds some other random sub-component instead of the app with a weird file extension. Oh, and my favorite: sometimes it finds multiple things but only after a delay, meaning that just as I hit Enter the top hit changes and I end up opening something entirely unintentional (bonus points if the mistaken choice is something that takes longer to launch, freezing the machine).
They need: (1) stability in the UI (never mess with something once it is highlighted), and (2) stability in the lookup (the same input produces the same set in the same order, every single time or it’s useless).
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#34To have search work viably as a menu it has to repeatable, which generally involves delivering desired results. More anti-user hubris from microsoft.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#35The state of this webpage and most i visit on a daily basis makes me sad. Can’t just open a page and read stuff anymore. There’s a vide being loaded and before that finishes the cookie popup comes up.
Disabling Javascript by default avoids most of this, though it breaks some sites.
I go one step further and disable CSS by default too. More often than not, disabling CSS improves webpages.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#36What idiot uses proprietary software with the expectation of privacy? Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is pretty up front about their extensive use of telemetry.
If you're looking for an operating system which isn't expressly built to profit off of you and your data, try a Linux or BSD distribution.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me, Microsoft's PR message has always amounted to "Windows users are either too busy, dumb, disorganized, impatient, or unfamiliar with their systems to know how to do things, so we try to think for them." It was amazing how much more productive and powerful I felt switching to Linux. Like, I could suddenly FIX problems without having to install some sketchy .exe or driver. Can't understand why people stick with W…
> Can't understand why people stick with Windows when they have other options. Gaming, support, decades of technical debt, and familiar user interfaces/workflows for non-technical users.
Gaming: getting a lot better on Linux, at an increasing rate. Steam has put a lot of work into making games available cross platform and for me, everything has "just worked" for the last two years or so.
Support: I've never had Windows support be successful. The helpers, wizzards, and online support has misdiagnosed or been unable to fix every issue I've had. For Linux, there are massive, friendly, knowledgeable communities, thorough documentation, and if all else fails, Stack Overflow.
Technical debt: I can't think of a Windows application I needed that hasn't had a similar FOSS application (if that was what you meant)
User interfaces: other than the Windows Start Menu, vanilla Ubuntu seems pretty familiar and intuitive coming from Windows, from what I remember when I switched.
Of course this is mostly subjective! But I think that Linux had so many years of clunkiness that it has a technical stigma to the average windows user. I've had friends and relatives switch recently after getting fed up by "Windows is now updating your PC at a very inconvenient time, for 3 hours", and overall have been happy with the switch.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#38Does this mean that microsoft could be keeping copies of the meta data of every file on every windows computer on their servers and doing the search there?
I had the same thought. Bit of a security risk there, not to mention being incredibly invasive.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#39At this point these "tech-news" websites are turning into gossip columns.
Please fact check before you start stirring more unfounded drama. Simple humans errors... don't blow them up into more conspiracies.
Re: Skepticism after Windows 10 search failure
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are they embracing so they can extinguish in this instance?
The IE integration with Windows was to extinguish Netscape Navigator. So I'm guessing this move is probably to destroy chrome and indirectly google search. Microsoft used their OS monopoly to destroy Netscape. Not sure if it will work today since they don't dominate the smartphone space.
Or, maybe, document/file search is a pretty useful and commonly expected feature for a desktop operating system? And extending it to online search is an entirely natural next step?
Even if this were a plot against Google, it would simply be bog-standard competition. It has absolutely none of the characteristics of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish".