Every phone I've had since then I've switched from on my own schedule, never forced to by slowness like my one iPhone.
France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
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Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#202These electronics are marketed to perform better than the one before. They shows big numbers flaunting how the thing zips, has more cores, whatever. Therefore, it makes sense that patches curving or throttle performance are made transparent to the consumer. If anything, these patches should ask for permission from the user and toggle-able via settings. Performance was promised. If the "wear and tear" argument of batt…
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#203This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Apple implemented this to help users extend life of older devices. Or to encourage users spending $500-$1,000 to upgrade their slowing devices. >Apple should just have phones in France run full clock at all times to comply with this regulation. Why does tech always seem to have the attitude of "we know whats best for you" and if you challenge us we will make things as bad as possible just to prove our point? Is ther…
Because for >80% of users, they DO know better. I can try to start this conversation with my grandmother, but as soon as I say "throttling," her eyes glaze over - and just says "can you do it for me?" Apple is trying to cut out that middleman. Even Android is getting on the "smart battery management" AI train, as no one outside of experts wants to do this.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#205This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I absolutely disagree. These phones were unusable with the throttling. I switched to Android because my iPhone 6 was unusable less than 3 years after getting it. This is like saying that an appropriate fix for a car manufacture is to limit the maximum speed of a car to 25 miles per hour. It breaks so many use cases that the car becomes worthless.
> This is like saying that an appropriate fix for a car manufacture is to limit the maximum speed of a car to 25 miles per hour. It breaks so many use cases that the car becomes worthless. Would you prefer the car simply turn off entirely while driving at highway speeds? Because phones with this issue would turn off entirely below certain charge levels, when the batteries had this issue. A more appropriate analogy wo…
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#207This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#208This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
Is there any evidence that phones would crash due to less reliable battery draw? It sounds like an explanation that could have been posthumously invented after the performance degradation became public knowledge. Coupled with the fact that nobody was ever told about this functionality, one can wonder the true intent. For all we know, they A/B tested it, and found it got people to upgrade more frequently.
Yes, it happened a lot. Do a quick search on Google, reddit, wherever with, say, "iphone crash", "6S crash" and there will be thousands of articles and posts about it, many from 2016 and 2017 when this problem was most pronounced. Anecdata, I know, but I also had a 6S that shut down almost as soon as I took it out in the cold, or when some power-hungry app was launched, and it all went away with the battery replacement.
I suspect those replacement batteries were some kind of "old new stock" as it didn't really last all that long, it went pretty bad within a year.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#209This is so dumb. Apple has a lot of flaws but old hardware support certainly isn’t one of them. Firstly, they only slowed down older phones to prevent them from crashing as they had less and less reliable battery draw. Secondly, Apple’s support for legacy phone hardware is the best in the market. It’s absurd that they’re being punished for this.
Re: France fines Apple €25M for iOS software that slowed down older iPhones
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is they didn't tell anyone they were doing it. So people thought their phone was just old and slow and bought a new one, when they could have just replaced the battery and made it fast again.
> The problem is they didn't tell anyone they were doing it. That’s called design. You have to make the decisions yourself. Customers are paying you to do that, not present them with a million checkboxes. Apple deserves a lot of criticism but this is a complete non issue. Having your phone slow down instead of shutting randomly down when the battery can’t supply the proper current is the best choice for the customer…