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U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Websites, ‘By Mistake’

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Re: U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Websites, ‘By Mistake’

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Am I the only one that is amused that the site they redirect to serves a single gigantic GIF totally 205K in size? It is also exactly 1024x768, which seems even sillier, I guess people browsing child porn run their browsers in full screen mode all the time? http://74.81.170.110/

Maybe they were thinking people wanted to use it as their background?

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It's not obvious what technical solutions exist that are practical to combat this. I feel like a lawsuit against DHS / ICE and related parties is an unfortunate but necessary step.

Start with that their seizure notices are not 508 compliant. They should be accessible to americans with disabilities.

I'm talking about technical solutions, perhaps in the DNS.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably those "books" with child pornography in them aren't allowed to be sold in the States. As someone who doesn't live there, I'm curious: how is that enforced?

As long as they're only describing the act in text it's legal. If there are photos, it's obviously right out. If there are illustrations, then the courts haven't definitely settled the question last I heard.

Not necessarily. Remember that pedophilia book that got Amazon some flack? A rogue sheriff in Florida had one of his deputies buy the hard copy and then arrest the writer for "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in harmful conduct". Horrible precedent for several reasons.

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-22/justice/florida.obscenity...

Re: U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Websites, ‘By Mistake’

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It's not obvious what technical solutions exist that are practical to combat this. I feel like a lawsuit against DHS / ICE and related parties is an unfortunate but necessary step.

Don't use domains subject to US law. That means COM/NET/ORG.

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It's amazing that these operations and bills are intentionally wrapped in wording that makes them politically untouchable. I can see why lawmakers wouldn't want to investigate this. Who wants to be the congressman/woman that went against Operation Save our children ?

How about a better question: Why is this allowed in the united states? This is an absofuckingloutely clear violation of the due process in our constitution. Yes save the fucking children, but do it properly. We see the abuses that arise from improper giving of power. I guess people are waiting until basically we live in communist russia where you got to bribe cops to not give you speeding ticket, impound your car, an…

>the government will never turn to a giant powergrab overnight.

They've learn through history and the wisdom of the public relations industry: consolidate power gradually and using numerous pretexts. I'd guess the power consolidation has an end vision in mind: one doesn't spend the kind of effort they've spent without a goal.

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I don't know the entire process well, but wouldn't that be something that you'd presumably file in Federal District court and start there? Once/if it hits the Supreme Court, I don't think the government could really ignore it could they?

As an example, let's look at the warrantless wiretapping that AT&T did on the behest of the NSA[0]. The EFF filed two cases in response that claimed it was a blatant violation of the 4th amendment: Jewel v. NSA[1] & Hepting v. AT&T[2], against the government & AT&T, respectively. Here's the latest news on Jewel v. NSA: > In April, the Obama administration moved to dismiss Jewel, claiming that litigation over the wire…

"When the [government] does it, that means it is not illegal!"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as they're only describing the act in text it's legal. If there are photos, it's obviously right out. If there are illustrations, then the courts haven't definitely settled the question last I heard.

Not necessarily. Remember that pedophilia book that got Amazon some flack? A rogue sheriff in Florida had one of his deputies buy the hard copy and then arrest the writer for "distribution of obscene material depicting minors engaged in harmful conduct". Horrible precedent for several reasons. http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-22/justice/florida.obscenity...

True, but that case has yet to be settled. Either way as far as I know the US government has made no move to ban the book, and even if they do get a conviction it will be under local laws and not federal laws.

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Oh geesh. What an awful story. I worked as a subcontractor for a vendor servicing ICE back when it was INS. Nobody that I knew was very impressed with the quality of service that INS was providing, either internally or externally. Changing their name to make them sound better and then putting them in charge of something like this is just, well, very sad. (I don't mean to disparage an entire agency. All I have is my p…

Having dealt with the INS and then the Dept of Homeland Security. The changes were for the worse. I get that they wanted to integrate all the agencies now making up the DoHS for better information sharing but there is a point when departments get so big that it just doesn't function anymore. They should have kept them smaller to remove the bureaucratic cruft.

Re: U.S. Government Shuts Down 84,000 Websites, ‘By Mistake’

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It's amazing that these operations and bills are intentionally wrapped in wording that makes them politically untouchable. I can see why lawmakers wouldn't want to investigate this. Who wants to be the congressman/woman that went against Operation Save our children ?

I think the rule should be that the people who vote against it get to collectively vote on a name. This would be a pretty cool game theory case study, actually.
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