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MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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My ASUS GA502 makes all kinds of noises. It has a loud coil whine when the keyboard backlight is off/dim, and the audio chipset is constantly popping the speakers by turning on and off to save power.

I bought it open box; the buyer probably went insane from the noise before they could even set up Windows.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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That's why I buy gaming laptops for my work needs even though I don't play games. Their heatsinks are generously sized resulting in good thermals and acoustics.

This has been true since the days of desktop computers, too (when laptop wasn't even an option). Gaming specs always make for simply great all-around machines — largely due to component specialization indeed, including thermal outtake. Note that to this day it's magnitudes of order cheaper to build a desktop for crunching numbers. There's no beating the thermals of that, and thermals = cost either in money or time in…

I was running video on a Lenovo desktop, CPU was at 100% the whole time, and it didn't heat up or make a lot of fan noise.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Been using Mac primarily since 2011 and sad to see everything keep declining with Apple's software and hardware quality. When programming an app and its backend with react native/clojure my 2015 Mac Pro gets way too hot and slow. Just built a Ryzen 3600 desktop with 32 gigs of RAM for about 1/4th the price as the cheapest 16 inch Macbook. Windows with WSL2 has been extremely good and I'm satisfied with my development…

I second this. For $2000 I built an absolute monster of a desktop PC. Super fast, never an issue and I use it for everything. I only use my MacBook when I wanna sit on the couch and that's it. Thankfully I got my laptop through work almost for free because it wouldn't have been worth the money.

But how about a comparable laptop?

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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> Apple says "we are listening now, and here is a new cooling design," They also keep at "oh, look how thin it is" even though the vast majority of people stopped caring 5-7 years ago. Make it thicker, but with better cooling, better storage, better GPUs etc. Worse still, they do it across the line. "We painted ourselves into a thermal corner with MacPro" says Apple and keeps releasing iMacs (and iMacs Pro) with seal…

> Make it thicker, but with better cooling, better storage, better GPUs etc. They literally did all of that in 16 inch.

Original unibody Macbook Pros were 2.5cm (0.98 in) thick.

Retina Macbook Pros were 1.7cm (0.71 in) thick.

Touchbar Macbook Pros, 1.55 cm (0.61 in) thick.

And they "made it thicker". They are now a whopping 1.62cm (0.64 in) thick.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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This appears to be a software bug in macOS or AMD's drivers. Plugging in an external monitor at certain resolutions (1440p@60Hz in my case) will cause the AMD GPU to draw 18-20W constantly, no matter what it's doing. This causes the total system draw to increase from ~10W to ~30W. All that heat has to go somewhere. If I change the resolution of my external monitor to 1080p the AMD GPU drops to ~4W and the fans are qu…

This is a bug on Macbooks in general, as I understand it. I have a 2019 MBP with a 4k monitor, and if I change the resolution to anything except the default, there is massive system-wide lag. God forbid I use PyCharm on 4k scaled resolution – a full second between typing and seeing the text.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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I like to keep my macbook on an elevated stand when its connected to monitor/keyboard/mouse. Does anyone know of a passive cooling stand (no fans) that works with macbooks? Maybe just something with a giant finned heatsink that presses right up against the middle of the case or something?

I use a Rain Design mStand. It's basically just a raised chunk of aluminum. It probably passively cools to some extent (it claims it does), but I have no metrics to say how much. (Of course, you could possibly also lay a freezer pack on the bottom of the stand, and maybe it would wick heat away even faster, and still passively...)

So I'm just checking out a video review of that stand. It looks like there's rubber pads that maybe raise the laptop up a bit off the plate. Can you tell me if your laptop is actually laying flush against the aluminum plate, or is there an air gap?

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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I use a similar trick: I try to find a laptop that comes in both discrete-GPU and integrated-GPU configurations, and both version must share the identical chassis. This way, when I buy the integrated version, I know the chassis has been designed with the heavier airflow of the discrete-GPU version in mind. If I'm lucky, my integrated-GPU config might even use the identical size heat-sinks as the discrete-GPU version.

That's interesting. Any model you can recommend?

The thinkpad T470/T480 dual-pipe dGPU heatsink is a drop-in replacement for the iGPU version, so if you buy the version without dGPU, you can pretty easily double your heatpipes quite cheap.

[0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/9ohpyo/psa_t470t4...

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

#158

I was planning to buy MacBook 16-inch as I am still on 2014 edition which in my view were one of the best MacBooks. I simply hate that unnecessary Touch Bar, was hoping Apple will remove it but didn’t. Thought then of getting 16-inch as they have an esc key. Waiting for this kind of review, I will put on hold purchasing it until get a clarity on fan noise. My current old MacBook fan do make some noise but only under…

FWIW I have the 16" Pro and haven't noticed the fans other than when I'm running a LOT of stuff (either a game or a heavy Docker workflow).

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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I’ll tell you one reason why you shouldn’t switch to a Lenovo laptop: their atrocious history with backdoors and buggy, vulnerable software, and the lockdown within their BIOS/UEFI to prevent things like swapping components for no good reason. Ok well, that was more than one reason, but you get the drift.

That's not true for Lenovo Thinkpads, which is a separate business division from Lenovo consumer hardware, as far as I am aware. And subsidizing consumer hardware with spyware has, unfortunately, become a standard industry practice. Most smartphone and Smart TV manufacturers are shipping their consumer devices full of bloatware that is extremely hard to get rid of.

I don't get the second part of your reply.

So what? Take it lying down?

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Why can't you? Compiling iOS apps? Otherwise anything an Apple product can do, a competitor does cheaper and better.

Cheaper? Yes. Better? Not generally.

It really depends. Some people want good gaming performances, an easy to upgrade or fix laptop, or simply a touch screen.
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