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Re: This person does not exist

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Post by bumby »

umvi wrote: post #69
angrygoat wrote: post #42

Here’s the Guardian article which linked the site: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/feb/07/ai-in-the-ad... To my mind there is a massive need for us in the software world to pause and think about the ethics of all of this. Engineers more broadly have well developed ethical codes, we should too.

So are you saying software developers should have to take the equivalent of a Bar exam in order to practice software development in a given state? That way ethical code violations have teeth because you can be debarred. As of now anyone and their dog can practice software development and I'm not sure what a nebulous "ethical code" would imply for them.

I've often wondered if software engineers would benefit from the accountability of licensing like other engineering disciplines, especially as it pertains to safety critical systems.

It's a bit shocking for me to know a mechanical, electrical, or civil design in, say, a power plant may require a Professional Engineer to officially stamp it but any ol' software engineer can write code on that system and fire it up. My understanding is that NCEES lists a controls systems license but I have yet to meet a single person with it or hear of a project that required it.

To a certain extent, I wonder if software development rigor/oversight is in an adolescence similar to what it must have been like for mechanical systems during the early parts of the industrial revolution.

Re: This person does not exist

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Post by bumby »

lagadu wrote: post #89
rpastuszak wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguably software engineering compared to engineering in a broader sense has a bigger issue with the “we did this because we could, not because we should” attitude. I feel like a “formalised ethical code” would result in more clever approaches of avoiding it. We don’t need to look far to find the examples (looking at ya ad tech)

But what's the incentive for doing that? What are you offering to those who work on adtech for them stop or to those who do work for $EvilCorp.

I think it would have to start with either regulation or customers requiring it.

I.e., contractually require someone licensed (where the license carries an ethic standard) or legally require it in areas that are 'in the public interest'

Re: This person does not exist

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Post by bagacrap »

I looked at about 50 faces trying to find one with a strong jawline or hard cheekbones. Although the features and hair are very realistic, the algorithm does seem to stray away from distinctive features. The women especially have uniformly round and soft faces.

Re: This person does not exist

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Post by duxup »

tomrod wrote: post #71

So, the specific person may not exist, but likely someone very, very similar in appearance does. I've come across people in life that I would have sworn were twins. I'm curious how combinatorically low the number of facial features need to be before people resemble one another.

I grew up in the midwest in an area where a lot of Germans settled many decades before I was born.

Later in life I traveled to Germany and just felt ... comfortable. I didn't speak the language or anything, wasn't talking to a lot of people, I simply saw all these faces that I felt I knew...

It was a very sudden change as I had already been to England, France, Italy and etc where things felt foreign and different. Then blamo, Germany and here are all these people I recognize / half recognize.

Re: This person does not exist

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Post by martin_a »

tomrod wrote: post #71

So, the specific person may not exist, but likely someone very, very similar in appearance does. I've come across people in life that I would have sworn were twins. I'm curious how combinatorically low the number of facial features need to be before people resemble one another.

> I've come across people in life that I would have sworn were twins.

Like some kind of dejavu?

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Post by bentcorner »

tomrod wrote: post #71

So, the specific person may not exist, but likely someone very, very similar in appearance does. I've come across people in life that I would have sworn were twins. I'm curious how combinatorically low the number of facial features need to be before people resemble one another.

On a similar tangent, privacy issues aside it would be fun to see if you had an unknown twin on social media. Upload your picture, see if there's other pictures that look like you but have a completely different friend graph.

Re: This person does not exist

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Post by mavhc »

re-actor wrote: post #90
lagadu wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what's the incentive for doing that? What are you offering to those who work on adtech for them stop or to those who do work for $EvilCorp.

Moral decency doesn't warrant reward.

Does if you fine the company millions when the building falls down
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