Does Visual Studio Rot the Mind? (2005)

Post by blobs » Fri, Feb 07, 2020, 1:16 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #77

blobs wrote: post #63

> I’m prevented from ever achieving a fluid coding style because the coding is not coming entirely from my head. My coding has become a constant dialog with IntelliSense. This. Code should live in your head. You shouldn't need intellisense to see that a property doesn't exist in an object. I hate code completion, most of the time it gets in the way of your thought process. Even if it can gain you a little speed incre…

>I wrote many bug free codebases with it, that's my experience. Prove it. You seem to be claiming to be qualitatively superior to most developers, since most developers use an IDE or tool of some sort, so let's see an example of this nontrivial bug free code you've written.

Post by duncans » Fri, Feb 07, 2020, 1:29 PM UTC

hootibles wrote: post #14

EvanAnderson wrote: post #8

I enjoyed the article, but I really want to hear the 1991 talk that he gave at the Boston Computer Society meeting re: early Windows development, OS/2, and the Microsoft/IBM split. I'm sure it's lost to the mists of time, sadly. I had no luck finding it doing some quick searching.

His email address is on his website... Maybe you should drop him a line. He might still have slides or notes.

Post by btschaegg » Fri, Feb 07, 2020, 1:57 PM UTC

pingyong wrote: post #69

blobs wrote: post #63

> I’m prevented from ever achieving a fluid coding style because the coding is not coming entirely from my head. My coding has become a constant dialog with IntelliSense. This. Code should live in your head. You shouldn't need intellisense to see that a property doesn't exist in an object. I hate code completion, most of the time it gets in the way of your thought process. Even if it can gain you a little speed incre…

I genuinely cannot tell if this is supposed to be satire or not.

Post by wayneftw » Fri, Feb 07, 2020, 2:18 PM UTC

zubspace wrote: post #62

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every couple of years I take another look at WPF but it always feels like wading through treacle for me. I'm so much more productive in WinForms. Perhaps if I dedicated a year to it I might come out the other side a productive WPF programmer but I have my doubts.

I'm in the same boat as you. The windows forms designer is such a joy to use. But as soon as you need to add special behavior to some controls it can get quite hairy. I've never encountered a complete roadblock, but we have a ton of code for windows forms controls which look more like workarounds or cheap hacks. But hey, it works. I also like the consistency of windows forms. This is awesome for administrative and bu…

Post by rafaelvasco » Fri, Feb 07, 2020, 2:30 PM UTC

irishcoffee wrote: post #96

rafaelvasco wrote: post #89

On the contrary. For me, good intellisense just makes coding flow better. If you're just getting your feet wet with the API, auto complete greatly helps you discovering the API. If you're already a veteran, coding just flows at lightning speed as long as intellisense correctly predicts what you want, which is the case "most" of the time.

It’s been a few years, but for c++ on a large codebase I vastly prefer qtcreator. Intelligence regularly hung while doing some background rescan. It was infuriating.