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Re: This person does not exist

#11

Originally submitted just on 12 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19144280 (872 points, 242 comments)

I remember it from the subproject, http://thiscatdoesnotexist.com > although that doesn't seem to have improved. It feels more like a "this transporter accident doesn't actually exist dot com". (Just a joke; its fun.)

Re: This person does not exist

#12
There was a pic of an older guy, but what was unsettling was the woman peeking over his shoulder; like a friend or a family member, leaning into the photo.

Her eyes were melting into black and white streaks curling down over her sagging cheeks; her smile was perfectly white, and just a little too long.

I refreshed on instinct, and haven't seen anything like it since.

Re: This person does not exist

#14
post #9

I have a question - When generating a new person (or whatever it is that does not exist) can you know that it isn’t like any of the images that went into the training data set? How likely is it for it to actually exist after all?

The model has 18x512 parameters, and all 9000 parameters are 32-bit floats. Even assuming only 16 bits of randomness for each parameter (to keep them small enough, so you don't get too wild, because the center of 0 is a pretty homogenized face), 16^9000 is a lot of permuations of faces. They will, of course, borrow from all of the 70k faces on Flickr that power StyleGAN, in varying degrees.

> Even assuming only 16 bits of randomness for each parameter

Well, this is the question. How do you know that you can make that assumption? Also even though you have ~9000 parameters they could be highly dependent.

Re: This person does not exist

#15

I'm intrigued about the possibility of using these as stock photos - it dies away with the need for model permissions (or does it?). Presumably the copyright on the image resides with the person who ... programmed the neural net? Trained the neural net? Is running the server?

I would guess the one picking the photos and training parameters would have the largest part of the copyright. Whether courts will decide others have some rights to is TBD.

The persons whose images the net was trained with also might have, certainly if the network was trained with only a few images.

Re: This person does not exist

#16

There was a pic of an older guy, but what was unsettling was the woman peeking over his shoulder; like a friend or a family member, leaning into the photo. Her eyes were melting into black and white streaks curling down over her sagging cheeks; her smile was perfectly white, and just a little too long. I refreshed on instinct, and haven't seen anything like it since.

https://i.imgur.com/RmSEnaT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RhROFSf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NTC2ZiN.jpg

Re: This person does not exist

#17

There was a pic of an older guy, but what was unsettling was the woman peeking over his shoulder; like a friend or a family member, leaning into the photo. Her eyes were melting into black and white streaks curling down over her sagging cheeks; her smile was perfectly white, and just a little too long. I refreshed on instinct, and haven't seen anything like it since.

https://i.imgur.com/RmSEnaT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RhROFSf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NTC2ZiN.jpg

The horror.

Re: This person does not exist

#18
post #15

I'm intrigued about the possibility of using these as stock photos - it dies away with the need for model permissions (or does it?). Presumably the copyright on the image resides with the person who ... programmed the neural net? Trained the neural net? Is running the server?

I would guess the one picking the photos and training parameters would have the largest part of the copyright. Whether courts will decide others have some rights to is TBD. The persons whose images the net was trained with also might have, certainly if the network was trained with only a few images.

How does copyright work when you have no idea the photo even exists? Are these photos dynamically generated on the fly when a page is loaded? Because if so, then the visitor is the only person to have seen that particular photo, and there'd be no way for any copyright owner to even know they might hold the copyright over that particular photo.

Re: This person does not exist

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I have a question - When generating a new person (or whatever it is that does not exist) can you know that it isn’t like any of the images that went into the training data set? How likely is it for it to actually exist after all?

Some of the backgrounds are surprisingly consistent, but some are distorted in ways that can only be done by a deep NN that sort-of knows what it's doing. The fact that the face is (almost always) still completely believable seems like good evidence against overfitting.
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