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The amount of up- and downvoting on anything China related feels insane. I wish someone at Hackernews will write a blog post about this some day (accounts, IP addresses, and whatever other data they have). From a casual reader perspective, I feel I have not seen this pattern on other controversial topics that sometimes show up here, e. g. gun control.
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I haven't really dug into them but there are criticisms that the Chinese government ignored the situation in the early stages and suppressed information about it. Which sounds like typical negatives of an authoritarian government that hinders free expression and isn't democratically accountable. Perfectly valid to criticize that. Now that they're engaged, the WHO is saying they're responding pretty well.
> I haven't really dug into An international collective of doctors and scientists who advise the World Health Organisation said this isn't a these you currently, why exactly do you have any reason to doubt them? Only have to look at the other response here to see how certain types with absolutely no concern for the truth want to dominate this debate, it's just another opportunity for them, nothing else. The WHO has b…
At least some Chinese officials suppressed information in the early days.
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I seriously doubt a quarantine on that scale would be effective and accepted by citizens in cases like this. If they did it may be the last time they had these privileges. They can lock down some roads or a building and maybe the air space, but anything on a larger scale is unrealistic. If someone did this in a western democracy, you can be sure those responsible would be on their last term after the initial hysteria…
I think you're copy-pasting China's literal response into some hypothetical other culture that isn't being clearly explained, which isn't useful for those of us that can't read your mind. Concretely, the US CDC for example prefers setting up physically separate internment camps and moving infected populations there for quarantine. And they can easily get the backing of federal military resources or, in the case of a…
And especially not in cases like this where the hysteria is beginning to be as much of a concern than the virus itself.
As I said, I don't think you could lock down a city. Military support or not. Even with a real threat, you can be sure people responsible would step down afterwards and quarantine be breached widely.
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I think you're copy-pasting China's literal response into some hypothetical other culture that isn't being clearly explained, which isn't useful for those of us that can't read your mind. Concretely, the US CDC for example prefers setting up physically separate internment camps and moving infected populations there for quarantine. And they can easily get the backing of federal military resources or, in the case of a…
Modern history also tells me that they never locked down a city. Certainly because the consequences are predictable. And especially not in cases like this where the hysteria is beginning to be as much of a concern than the virus itself. As I said, I don't think you could lock down a city. Military support or not. Even with a real threat, you can be sure people responsible would step down afterwards and quarantine be…
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What? US state and federal emergency responders have plans and tools for locking down a city, too.
Yup. Specifically, many people have speculated that FEMA has contingency plans where they would even be able to set up internment camps for as many people as needed, if required to quarantine an epidemic or other national emergency. Not too far from what's going on in Wuhan.
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Yup. Specifically, many people have speculated that FEMA has contingency plans where they would even be able to set up internment camps for as many people as needed, if required to quarantine an epidemic or other national emergency. Not too far from what's going on in Wuhan.
Which people have speculated, and on what grounds? Anyone can speculate anything about FEMA's disaster plans to make internment of arbitrarily large numbers of people sound like a totally normal thing.
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The WHO is captured by China. You're not going to get any reports from doctors who have challenged the CCP narrative there.
When I read who's statements like: do not close boarders to china because it will hurt business, I do start to wonder.
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The WHO is captured by China. You're not going to get any reports from doctors who have challenged the CCP narrative there.
When I read who's statements like: do not close boarders to china because it will hurt business, I do start to wonder.
If China wants countries to open their doors again then they need to let the rest of the world's doctors in to help research the nature of this virus.
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Do not agree. Government everywhere makes mistakes under emergencies. Just look at past responses to hurricanes in the US and the current wildfire in Australia. Maybe you could say every government is incompetent. But the fact is that China reported the cases very early to WHO, get the genes mapped very quickly, and decisively locked down Hebei. So I would say so far China has shown competence and resolve, against a…
Chinese government definitely doesn't have it easy on the internet. Whole host of conspiracy theorists were saying: wtf couple hundred infected why are they locking down cities and closing provinces - they must know something we don't. And now you get people saying they didn't do enough. In this thread people are still sharing articles about how there akshually 10s thousands of dead and how the virus was intentionall…
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When I read who's statements like: do not close boarders to china because it will hurt business, I do start to wonder.
When did they give a statement like that? Show me
https://www.technologyreview.com/f/615123/the-china-coronavi...