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European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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Been through an airport in the EU or going to the EU lately?

That's not up to the EU. Thats up to the individual countries.

The EU is a memebership of collective countries, not some all powerfull entity of controlling its memebers and telling them what to do.. It's not the same as the US federal system.

Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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As usual, politicians start to claim privacy rights when it comes to them, and yet this technology is already being tested throughout major European cities. The hypocrisy is real.

the EU allows its countries to pursue their own policies, this is not hypocrisy, its simply clarifying that the EU itself will not be implementing this technology. What individual countries do is not up to the EU parliment.

It doesnt really, european countries are frequently bullied into submission. I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in, bureaucracy and all other things the far left of HN will flag. It will, without doubt, collapse die to the opposite of allowing countries do what they see fit for their own citizen safety.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

the EU allows its countries to pursue their own policies, this is not hypocrisy, its simply clarifying that the EU itself will not be implementing this technology. What individual countries do is not up to the EU parliment.

It doesnt really, european countries are frequently bullied into submission. I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in, bureaucracy and all other things the far left of HN will flag. It will, without doubt, collapse die to the opposite of allowing countries do what they see fit for their own citizen safety.

> I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in

Human rights and trying to be decent to people fleeing wars is now a bad thing ? Also collectively agreeing to help these people.. Collectively. Countries can have their own policies.

What Bullying are you talking about ??

I will refer to my previous statement as it seems some people don't really understand how the EU works. The EU is a memebership of collective countries, not some all powerfull entity of controlling its memebers and telling them what to do.

> collapse die to the opposite of allowing countries do what they see fit for their own citizen safety

You don't really get it, but please believe what you like. I'm going to take a stab and say you're pro-brexit too ?

Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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As usual, politicians start to claim privacy rights when it comes to them, and yet this technology is already being tested throughout major European cities. The hypocrisy is real.

Did you read the article at all? The European Union is already planning to introduce a temporary ban on facial recognition in public spaces - PRECISELY because the technology is being rolled out throughout European cities without first assessing the impact on rights such as privacy. The story is about a leaked draft of a plan to introduce the same technology on the parliament itself - which would be inconsistent with…

> The story is about a leaked draft of a plan to introduce the same technology on the parliament itself

I did, and that's what I mean. They don't want it in the parliament and yet the subway station I use every day has facial recognition system in place, there is even a sign that says "it's for your safety". I'll believe in a ban when they'll take it down.

Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesnt really, european countries are frequently bullied into submission. I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in, bureaucracy and all other things the far left of HN will flag. It will, without doubt, collapse die to the opposite of allowing countries do what they see fit for their own citizen safety.

> I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in Human rights and trying to be decent to people fleeing wars is now a bad thing ? Also collectively agreeing to help these people.. Collectively. Countries can have their own policies. What Bullying are you talking about ?? I will refer to my previous statement as it seems some people don't really understand how the EU works. The EU is a memebership of collective countr…

Not at all, it’s a good thung. But not chaotically and at that scale. Also not by bullying countries which already have helped pretty much all countries where such issues happen. It seeks like you still think the eu is an equal memberships club - germany issued a diktat, all others had better obeyed it, or else...

I am against brexit and pro reform. The EU is dated and operates through bully power. If it doesnt reform it will collapse. Critique from within is what can actually prevent its collapse. If people dont want mass migration, or whatever they strongly oppose then the eu better take it into account, or else there will be no eu to do all the good it can do even without chaos.

People like you who strongly oppose reform and blindly believe the eu is perfection is what pushes even those that want reform into the camps of brexit and the far right. Seems like there is no more middle ground. A shame really.

Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the EU allows its countries to pursue their own policies, this is not hypocrisy, its simply clarifying that the EU itself will not be implementing this technology. What individual countries do is not up to the EU parliment.

It doesnt really, european countries are frequently bullied into submission. I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in, bureaucracy and all other things the far left of HN will flag. It will, without doubt, collapse die to the opposite of allowing countries do what they see fit for their own citizen safety.

> I.e. allowing 1 million undocumented aliens in

What exactly are you talking about?

On the one hand, if a subpopulation is undocumented, you can’t know how many there are.

On the other, I’m sure you’re referring to the million asylum seekers that Germany in particular looked after at the same time that another EU state, Hungary, was putting up barbed wire fences on their borders so that none went into Hungary.

Germany wanted some other nations to help out, but everyone else effectively (not necessarily literally) said no.

Also, to preempt a common reply at this point, asylum seekers don’t get to take advantage of EU free movement rules.

Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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post #11
post #8

Been through an airport in the EU or going to the EU lately?

That's not up to the EU. Thats up to the individual countries. The EU is a memebership of collective countries, not some all powerfull entity of controlling its memebers and telling them what to do.. It's not the same as the US federal system.

That is true, but it’s also the case that EU countries agree to collective rule-making in some cases. If the member states agree, following the established process, that facial recognition should be disallowed throughout the EU then that’s something that can totally happen. Just like GDPR.

Re: European parliament says it will not use facial recognition tech

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post #11
post #8

Been through an airport in the EU or going to the EU lately?

That's not up to the EU. Thats up to the individual countries. The EU is a memebership of collective countries, not some all powerfull entity of controlling its memebers and telling them what to do.. It's not the same as the US federal system.

How about all the mass surveillance programs the EU has been funding for decades that do use facial recognition?
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