When the dust settles from this event I suspect one positive will be that China will throw technology at the problem of more rapidly detecting viral outbreaks and more quickly locking down the affected areas.
China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
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Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#22Well 2019-ncov is probably here to stay permanently, so while I appreciate the effort to slow it down, they're not going to save the world from it quite yet.
What are you basing this statement on? or is it just the flu of Reddit-inspired speculations on HN?
Feels like some version of Pandora's Box/life (or non-life, in this case) will find a way. We haven't wiped out Polio yet. Actually, there are more coronavirus cases than polio.
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#23not that they created the virus, but they keep maintaining a standard of living that promotes the rapid hybridization and diffusion of viruses. so no, they don't get to be painted as saviors after being responsible for the issue to begin with.
What a breathtakingly ignorant anti-Chinese comment.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they keep maintaining a standard of living that promotes the rapid hybridization and diffusion of viruses. Please elaborate on what you mean by "standard of living". I couldn't follow how the former leads to the latter.
wet markets? overcrowded cities? hukou preventing internal economic migrant from healthcare access?
Agree that markets selling live animals should be banned or at least monitored more strictly. Do not think the other two points are relevant. Regarding cities, if you look at Chinese society and economy, urbanization is a very positive force that contributed hugely to people's wellbeing, including health. Also BTW Chinese cities are probably the safest cities in the world. Regarding hukou, it limits access to education and house/car buying, much more than healthcare access. Actually a lot of rural residents routines go to big cities to get healthcare service.
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#25Correction: China makes a show out of sacrificing a province to demonstrate to the world that no, they really are being serious about it this time, honest!
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#26This psychotic article is so biased and misrepresentative it's borderline criminal.
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#27Just dropping a link here, anyone who is concerned about the coronavirus and has opinions about it should imo read the daily situation reports from the WHO: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... In 5 minutes a day you will have a better informed perspective than what any news sites provide, my own alarm has lessened considerably after reading these.
> my own alarm has lessened considerably
That that is the case speaks poorly of the WHO as a reliable source of information.
Run the numbers. Run a regression on Hubei's spread. I did. That's the two-weeks out future for the virus outside of Hubei (unless the speculation that there was a secretive inoculation program in Hubei that went wrong).
Presuming Hubei's population is normal, then this is spreading badly and is not contained. It describes the future. My future, your future. Our future.
Psychotic downvoters suppressing the verifiable mathematical reality. Enjoy your apocalypse and mass death. Evil. Better to work on a fix rather than Chinese Communist State Suppression of facts here on HN. You can't suppress a virus using propaganda tactics. All you bring is death.
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#28Sacrifice my ass. Their incompetence led to a province and its people being hung out to dry. They let this problem get out of hand—and now the people there suffer. How? They ignored the doctors who attempted to report the problem on New Year’s day. They (the CCP) take no precautionary measures until their political regime is threatened. So many things done wrong—including maintaining wet market controls up a few year…
Do not agree. Government everywhere makes mistakes under emergencies. Just look at past responses to hurricanes in the US and the current wildfire in Australia. Maybe you could say every government is incompetent. But the fact is that China reported the cases very early to WHO, get the genes mapped very quickly, and decisively locked down Hebei. So I would say so far China has shown competence and resolve, against a tough virus.
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#29Just dropping a link here, anyone who is concerned about the coronavirus and has opinions about it should imo read the daily situation reports from the WHO: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... In 5 minutes a day you will have a better informed perspective than what any news sites provide, my own alarm has lessened considerably after reading these.
> my own alarm has lessened considerably That that is the case speaks poorly of the WHO as a reliable source of information. Run the numbers. Run a regression on Hubei's spread. I did. That's the two-weeks out future for the virus outside of Hubei (unless the speculation that there was a secretive inoculation program in Hubei that went wrong). Presuming Hubei's population is normal, then this is spreading badly and i…
When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."
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Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
Re: China Sacrifices a Province to Save the World From Coronavirus
#30Meanwhile, https://www.rnz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/408915/chin...
WHO clearly does not recommend travel bans. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/30-01-2020-statement-on... : The Committee does not recommend any travel or trade restriction based on the current information available.
Which is yet another reason why nothing the WHO proclaims can possibly be taken seriously by any sane, rational, or informed person.