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Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by AndrewBissell »

ta999999171 wrote: post #69
giarc wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If she's sitting in a cafe in some random country, let's say Morocco or Bermuda, what is their law enforcements motivation for finding her? As far as I understand, there is no arrest warrant out for her, nor any Interpol involvement. They've got better things to do, so I wouldn't be so quick to assume law enforcement around the world is in on this.

> They've got better things to do This is incredible.

Haha, who in the world is downvoting this comment? It's an entirely apt way to point out the absurdity of the parent.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by AndrewBissell »

peteretep wrote: post #91
smoyer wrote: post #39

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I'm not either but I believe what you've stated to be true and am skeptical that he actually hung himself.

> am skeptical that he actually hung himself The simplest explanation here, if you’re trying to include outside interference, is that a patient on suicide watch was intentionally allowed conditions in which he could finish the job. Why hang him when you can intentionally botch the surveillance and he’ll hang himself for you? Much cleaner.

In the words of the TrueAnon hosts "10% chance that they just MKUltra'd him into killing himself."

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by doubt_me »

krick wrote: post #139
powerslacker wrote: post #134

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> how come this very well-organized, lead by world-class professionals and covered up by incredibly influential people (both on the "offending" and "blackmailed" sides) operation gets "cleaned up" in a way such that every fucking couch potato in the internet (HN included) sees that this is obviously staged? Mossad cannot silently get rid of people? It's classic spycraft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

Didn't know there's a name for that, but that's pretty much the point of my message. A quote from the Wikipedia: > while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case So, what's the key ? Clearly not what we are currently made to believe.

He is clearly alive and not in any trouble whatsoever.

just ask

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Barr

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by Thorrez »

micah94 wrote: post #10
proximitysauce wrote: post #3

Records filed by the estate on Friday indicate that Southern Country had $693,157 in assets when Mr. Epstein died on Aug. 10. Then, in mid-December, the estate transferred $15.5 million to Southern Country in two checks. Southern Country sent back $2.6 million, leaving the total it received at $12.9 million. The documents filed by the estate do not give a reason for the transfers. It’s also not clear what Southern Co…

It's really hard not to jump down the rabbit hole, but how else to explain the lax "investigation". There's millions of dollars moving around and nobody cares? Of course they could track this down. But the Virgin Islands isn't going to implicate themselves in this. They consider themselves a victim too (metoo!). I'll just leave my comments there.

Why do you say no one cares? It sounds like the judge cares. Obviously the New York Times cares too.

> a magistrate judge, Carolyn Hermon-Purcell, questioned the estate’s lawyers about the transfers to Southern Country, saying the disclosure was not satisfactory. The judge said she did not know why Southern Country would be receiving checks from the estate. “There’s no explanation for it,” she said.

> A lawyer for the estate responded that some of the payment had been made in error, but the judge was not satisfied with his response and asked him to follow up with a fuller accounting.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by londons_explore »

BubRoss wrote: post #114
rowrowrow wrote: post #108

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Epstein was good at what he did plus he had lots of money from the ponzi scheme he was involved with. Wexner is also widely believed to be gay. In his case, I don’t think blackmail is probable considering the power of a smart, rich, confidence artist. I’m sure there’s no doubt that a variety of intelligence agencies and private groups targeted Epstein for information. But I’m skeptical that this all originated as any…

You think someone who built multiple retail empires would give someone power of attorney because they seemed skilled? Power of attorney transfer is for people who are dying or mentally disabled.

Power of attorney can be used for some international tax dodging schemes - laws are inconsistent on which of the two people must pay/report the tax, and by doing that across a country border, you can avoid the tax without anyone breaking the law.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by woah »

_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #135
woah wrote: post #130

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PRISM

Not exactly sure what you mean by that one word [0], but: You would consider it a conspiracy theory saying that an agency that is funded to listen in to everything [1] is listening in to everything? And it turns out not to be a conspiracy theory when Snowden reveals that the agency funded to listen in to everything has a program to listen in to everything? Or does the conspiracy theory have any finer details I'm not…

The idea that the government was listening to everything on the internet was considered a baseless conspiracy theory before the Snowden leaks.

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Post by tsimionescu »

ars wrote: post #99
claudeganon wrote: post #88

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Of course it does, but those are still the interests that protect Wexner and I don’t think it’s controversial to say as much. I’m sure no shortage of Democrats would rush to protect Bill Gates if his ties to Epstein were more fully exposed.

So what you are saying is that the party is irrelevant, because both would do the same thing? Which means that calling out one party is making something into a partisan issue when it isn't. The only purpose in calling out a party is to imply something different about that party.

The relevant but of of information was that Wexner is in close ties with a major political party, in this case, the Republicans, and that major political parties are known to protect their wealthiest friends.

You got stuck on the mention of the Republicans, but GP was trying to say something about Wexner, not singling them out. If GP had said 'a political party' instead of 'the Republicans', it would have sounded more hand-wavy.

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

woah wrote: post #146
_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not exactly sure what you mean by that one word [0], but: You would consider it a conspiracy theory saying that an agency that is funded to listen in to everything [1] is listening in to everything? And it turns out not to be a conspiracy theory when Snowden reveals that the agency funded to listen in to everything has a program to listen in to everything? Or does the conspiracy theory have any finer details I'm not…

The idea that the government was listening to everything on the internet was considered a baseless conspiracy theory before the Snowden leaks.

"internet was considered a baseless conspiracy"

I never met anyone who said it was a conspiracy theory that the intelligence agencies would listen in to everything on the internet and fullfilling their self stated purpose [0]. Even my mother thinks that is their job.

But it seems you have met people that claim the NSA doing it's job is a conspiracy theory.

What would those people say the job and purpose of the NSA is to explain it's existence?

[0] "The National Security Agency/Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) leads the U.S. Government in cryptology that encompasses both signals intelligence (SIGINT) [1] and information assurance (now referred to as cybersecurity) products and services, and enables computer network operations (CNO) in order to gain a decision advantage for the Nation and our allies under all circumstances." https://www.nsa.gov/about/mission-values/

[1] "Signals intelligence (SIGINT) is intelligence-gathering by interception of signals, whether communications between people or from electronic signals not directly used in communication" Wikipedia

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Post by tsimionescu »

solotronics wrote: post #98
krn wrote: post #40

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> The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also leads me to think that he wasn't even in charge of the whole thing. There are enough reasons to believe that Jeffrey Epstein might have operated a honeypot for Mossad, and Ghislaine Maxwell was his handler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21410931 That would explain why Jeffrey Epstein’s injuries look more like murder than…

It's easy to say "this is bad" but put yourself in the position of the Israeli leadership. They are a tiny country surrounded by enemies and a people who have experienced horrible atrocities in the recent past. Even though it is wrong I accept that the logical actions for them is to set up exteme measures of blackmail and espionage to further the security of their people and homeland. It's literally a survival issue…

If Israel had wanted security, they would have accepted the worldwide consensus on the two-state solution 30 years ago, and would have moved on to further diplomatic ties with their closest neighbors.

Instead, Israel wants territory and power, so they build illegal colonies on stolen land, they brutalize Palestine and make a show of brutally repressing them,and they antagonize and threaten their neighbors in defiance of international law. There will be no peace in Israel as long as this doesn't change, but they may well flourish economically from this.

On the other hand, to believe that the US is an unwilling, blackmailed participant in all of this is absurd. The US is not Israel's dim-witted reluctant ally, it is actively spurring on Israel in all of their actions, both in order to extend its influence and defeat its enemies in the area (Iran's independence and rejection of the Cia-installed Shah will not be forgiven or forgotten), and to keep a steady demand for US armaments going in the area.

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Post by krn »

krick wrote: post #110
krn wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also leads me to think that he wasn't even in charge of the whole thing. There are enough reasons to believe that Jeffrey Epstein might have operated a honeypot for Mossad, and Ghislaine Maxwell was his handler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21410931 That would explain why Jeffrey Epstein’s injuries look more like murder than…

I'd like more evidence pointing specifically to Mossad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7761169/Jeffrey-Eps...
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