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Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

Be careful about going down this rabbit hole, or you might end up being called a cOnSpiRacY ThEOriSt.

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> lives until it collapses. Usually due to government intervention. Corrupt and bloated businesses also "live until they collapse". I trust in democracy more than markets.

> I trust in democracy more than markets. I don't. People vote against their best interests all the time. The SF housing market is self-inflicted from people voting against new housing, because many of them don't understand the concept of supply and demand. Neither markets nor democracy are perfect, but at least free markets are efficient.

Maybe they understand that there's very little empty land to build housing on.

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How many billionaires and high-ranking officials could one guy set up before rumors started circulating and people caught on? And why wouldn’t they have had him knocked off sooner?

If somebody got ensnared in that sort of thing, I don't think they'd be quick to gossip about it.

He’s been a known sex trafficker with close ties to US politicians for decades. You think the CIA would not look into him?

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Let me wonder aloud here. The story goes that Epstein was a Mossad puppet in an operation that served to control the richest, most powerful and influential, most well-connected people alive, to extent to significantly affect things on global political stage. That operation was successfully going on for decades. (That's impressive, but wouldn't really surprise me, as we know for a fact that some even more impressive success stories of several government intelligence agencies dismissed as "conspiracy stories" for decades turned out to be true.)

Then, this very valuable asset (virtually untouchable for some very high-profile people) gets compromised because some nobody accused him of "sexual abuse". There is an investigation, arrest, conviction, yet nothing really leaks, he gets off relatively easy, his masters don't think it is necessary to get rid of him and the whole (pretty public by now, with multiple very famous people low-key-affected) goes on in this messy way for 15 years.

After 15 years he suddenly gets arrested again, this time for good, the whole story gets incredibly public, his bosses suddenly (again, 15 years) realise that he is a liability and decide to get rid of him. He gets killed in a cell by Mossad agents, this is staged as a suicide, which is another "conspiracy theory" for a short while, but in the end we all know that Epstein didn't kill himself. Key evidence disappears and the case is covered on multiple levels, leading up to some very high ranks.

Ok, there are plenty of really really suspicious inconsistencies in that story already, but here's what really baffles me: how come this very well-organized, lead by world-class professionals and covered up by incredibly influential people (both on the "offending" and "blackmailed" sides) operation gets "cleaned up" in a way such that every fucking couch potato in the internet (HN included) sees that this is obviously staged? Mossad cannot silently get rid of people?

I mean, of course everybody (again, HN community members especially included) loves to think they are wa-ay smarter than some Mossad goons and dirty politicians covering this up. But seriously. How can this possibly be so obvious (yet still so mysterious! — we really know nothing in paricluar) unless somebody really wants it to be obvious?

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> The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also leads me to think that he wasn't even in charge of the whole thing. There are enough reasons to believe that Jeffrey Epstein might have operated a honeypot for Mossad, and Ghislaine Maxwell was his handler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21410931 That would explain why Jeffrey Epstein’s injuries look more like murder than…

It's easy to say "this is bad" but put yourself in the position of the Israeli leadership. They are a tiny country surrounded by enemies and a people who have experienced horrible atrocities in the recent past. Even though it is wrong I accept that the logical actions for them is to set up exteme measures of blackmail and espionage to further the security of their people and homeland. It's literally a survival issue…

Self preservation has been the greatest motivator/justification for inflicting pain and sufferings onto others

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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It's easy to say "this is bad" but put yourself in the position of the Israeli leadership. They are a tiny country surrounded by enemies and a people who have experienced horrible atrocities in the recent past. Even though it is wrong I accept that the logical actions for them is to set up exteme measures of blackmail and espionage to further the security of their people and homeland. It's literally a survival issue…

All intelligence agencies are staffed by the morally bankrupt. To get bin Laden the CIA set back the effort to end polio decades. There are no good people in intelligence, only bad ones working for one country and bad ones working for another.

Let's not forget MKUltra.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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post #124

Let me wonder aloud here. The story goes that Epstein was a Mossad puppet in an operation that served to control the richest, most powerful and influential, most well-connected people alive, to extent to significantly affect things on global political stage. That operation was successfully going on for decades. (That's impressive, but wouldn't really surprise me, as we know for a fact that some even more impressive s…

"That's impressive, but wouldn't really surprise me, as we know for a fact that some even more impressive success stories of several government intelligence agencies dismissed as "conspiracy stories" for decades turned out to be true."

I would be interested in these, any Wikipedia links?

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

I am not normally a conspiracy theorist.. but I have come to suspect the same. One example, despite all that has come up in the this case, and the number of times Ghislaine Maxwell's name has been brought up, there is no word of her whereabouts. Unless we think she is some Jason Bourne level expert that can just make herself disappear, I can think of only three explanations - 1) The law enforcement agencies are choos…

I think the common suspicion is that Epstein had an Eli Cohen style role and Maxwell was his handler.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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post #124

Let me wonder aloud here. The story goes that Epstein was a Mossad puppet in an operation that served to control the richest, most powerful and influential, most well-connected people alive, to extent to significantly affect things on global political stage. That operation was successfully going on for decades. (That's impressive, but wouldn't really surprise me, as we know for a fact that some even more impressive s…

Dude this is the best summary ! I came to the comments first to get the meat of the story ! This is a Bond/Bourne novel in the making this !

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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post #124

Let me wonder aloud here. The story goes that Epstein was a Mossad puppet in an operation that served to control the richest, most powerful and influential, most well-connected people alive, to extent to significantly affect things on global political stage. That operation was successfully going on for decades. (That's impressive, but wouldn't really surprise me, as we know for a fact that some even more impressive s…

"That's impressive, but wouldn't really surprise me, as we know for a fact that some even more impressive success stories of several government intelligence agencies dismissed as "conspiracy stories" for decades turned out to be true." I would be interested in these, any Wikipedia links?

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