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Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by peteretep »

smoyer wrote: post #39
mgolawala wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not normally a conspiracy theorist.. but I have come to suspect the same. One example, despite all that has come up in the this case, and the number of times Ghislaine Maxwell's name has been brought up, there is no word of her whereabouts. Unless we think she is some Jason Bourne level expert that can just make herself disappear, I can think of only three explanations - 1) The law enforcement agencies are choos…

I'm not either but I believe what you've stated to be true and am skeptical that he actually hung himself.

> am skeptical that he actually hung himself

The simplest explanation here, if you’re trying to include outside interference, is that a patient on suicide watch was intentionally allowed conditions in which he could finish the job.

Why hang him when you can intentionally botch the surveillance and he’ll hang himself for you? Much cleaner.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by JabavuAdams »

marriedWpt wrote: post #22
gameswithgo wrote: post #20

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>The government is notorious for being corrupt and inefficient So is the private sector. Excellence is rare. Such is life, welcome to earth.

The private sector goes out of business. The government lives until it collapses.

Nah, it really doesn't. Or at least that's much too weak a signal to actually provide a constraint on bad corporate actors.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by JabavuAdams »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #67
meowface wrote: post #58

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Intelligence agencies never confirm or deny such things, and how can you debunk something that's not currently possible to prove or disprove? I think almost no one, including the media, knows what really happened. There are a huge array of different forking possibilities.

If the intelligence community can't publicly deny that perhaps the most prolific child rapist in known history was an asset, we have serious problems. Regardless of standard policy.

Imagine being a regular forces soldier at a base in Afghanistan who discovers that an allied local commander likes to rape little boys. On base. Imagine being told that you can't do anything about it, because if you piss him off Americans will die. The world is a really, really, really shitty place for the powerless and for naive idealists. Epstein was scum, but he's not as bad as some of the people we regularly work with to uphold our system. It's depressing.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by JabavuAdams »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #47
searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

I've come to the conclusion that he was an intelligence asset. The dog that doesn't bark is the fact that, to my knowledge, there are no on the record statements from the intelligence community which deny he was an asset. What's even more conspicuous is that there is clearly a strong interest by the public. Even if all these "conspiracy theories" are false, you could get a LOT of viewership just going around debunkin…

Regarding confirming or denying -- it's not like these people have any problem with or shame about directly lying to your face. What they confirm or deny, or fail to doesn't really mean much.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by catalogia »

freyir wrote: post #78
searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

How many billionaires and high-ranking officials could one guy set up before rumors started circulating and people caught on? And why wouldn’t they have had him knocked off sooner?

If somebody got ensnared in that sort of thing, I don't think they'd be quick to gossip about it.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by BurningFrog »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #80
sokoloff wrote: post #73

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Was Epstein an asset? No! Was Dahmer an asset? No! Was Foobar an asset? No comment. It's not in their best interest to publicly deny any assets I don't think.

This is only a problem if the state has sanctioned mass child rape or necrophilic cannibalism. If the state did sanction those actions, we deserve to know.

This is the same state that killed hundreds of thousands Iraqis on the other side of the planet.

Epstein is very small fry for that organization.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by claudeganon »

peteretep wrote: post #89
claudeganon wrote: post #29

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Wexner is a long time, major financier of Republicans at the state and national level. He’ll never see any investigation, outside maybe some investor suits because L Brands stock is tanking.

Don’t Democrats control Albany?

Wexner lives in New Albany, Ohio, Ohio’s 12th congressional district, which, barring voting for Obama in 2008, has been solidly Republican for a long time:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio's_12th_congressional_di...

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by solotronics »

krn wrote: post #40
searcher1 wrote: post #7

I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the simplest explanation for investigations being constantly spiked or important evidence repeatedly disappearing during Epstein's life, is that enough high-ranking officials got invited to "parties" and slept with his underage sex slaves (or worse) on video, and were then blackmailed. The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also…

> The fact that even after his life there aren't gobs of collaborators being arrested also leads me to think that he wasn't even in charge of the whole thing. There are enough reasons to believe that Jeffrey Epstein might have operated a honeypot for Mossad, and Ghislaine Maxwell was his handler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21410931 That would explain why Jeffrey Epstein’s injuries look more like murder than…

It's easy to say "this is bad" but put yourself in the position of the Israeli leadership. They are a tiny country surrounded by enemies and a people who have experienced horrible atrocities in the recent past. Even though it is wrong I accept that the logical actions for them is to set up exteme measures of blackmail and espionage to further the security of their people and homeland. It's literally a survival issue for them and possibly morally equivalent to a starving person stealing bread.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by ars »

claudeganon wrote: post #88
solarhoma wrote: post #86

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This is not a partisan issue. This goes well beyond those lines.

Of course it does, but those are still the interests that protect Wexner and I don’t think it’s controversial to say as much. I’m sure no shortage of Democrats would rush to protect Bill Gates if his ties to Epstein were more fully exposed.

So what you are saying is that the party is irrelevant, because both would do the same thing?

Which means that calling out one party is making something into a partisan issue when it isn't.

The only purpose in calling out a party is to imply something different about that party.

Re: Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death

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Post by readhn »

there is a strong case to be made that Epstein could still be alive.

Per interviews with the victims he video recorded EVERYTHING at his properties. Pinhole cameras, CCTVs in bedrooms/showers etc you name it.

Chances are in order to protect himself - he had blackmail material on people we all know. If acts described by the victims were secretly taped then those people are royally (pun intended) screwed.

Now the real question is - who in the world is capable to pull off an escape from a prison / suicide / body double swap?

“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”-Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami.

So the answer is - CIA.

Epstein's buddy Bill Clinton has a "dirty" drug / CIA connection from his Mena / Arkansas days going back to the 80's (it was widely publicized, refer to the book " Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation").

CIA is the only organization capable to get Epstein out and safe / get him new identity and help disappear.

The truth? We will never know.

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