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I'm looking forward to the keto rebuttal.
What rebuttal? > red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years 0.62% increase over 30 years is next to nothing, especially when you consider that many people have shit diet habits anyway.
The thing about processed food is that it came about in the 50s, at a time when many Americans still remembered the dust bowl. Processed food could be shipped long distances and stored for long times without spoiling and was available at any time of year. It was, among other things, a hedge against starvation. It's not high quality food, and you should, by all means, prefer fresh food when it is available and you can…
Define “processed food” - I understand it often includes decidedly un-modern steps, such as salting and curing; even doing your own pickling.
According to the NHS who also did this study, this is the definition of 'processed food'...
I think it's dangerous to use the term processed when it's clearly just the fat, sugars, or other added chemicals and usually not the process that is unhealthy. 'Freezing and baking' is not unhealthy and yet they are what the NHS considers 'processed'.
The risk is increased by 7% for eating processed meat, not red meat. And the actual numbers are:
processed meat: you would increase your risk by 0.4% over 10 years, 1.02% over 20 years and 1.74% over 30 years
red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years
poultry: 0.20% over 10 years, 0.54% over 20 years and 1.03% over 30 yearsInteresting how the numbers are pumped up for the headline. The risk is increased by 7% for eating processed meat, not red meat. And the actual numbers are: processed meat: you would increase your risk by 0.4% over 10 years, 1.02% over 20 years and 1.74% over 30 years red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years poultry: 0.20% over 10 years, 0.54% over 20 years and 1.03% over 30 years
Interesting how the numbers are pumped up for the headline. The risk is increased by 7% for eating processed meat, not red meat. And the actual numbers are: processed meat: you would increase your risk by 0.4% over 10 years, 1.02% over 20 years and 1.74% over 30 years red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years poultry: 0.20% over 10 years, 0.54% over 20 years and 1.03% over 30 years
I'm mostly surprised poultry is worse than red meat. I realize the supermarket chickens most people eat are a far cry from their ancestors (ridiculously overfed, grain diets, selectively bred to grow faster and fatter), but cattle have many similar issues.
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What rebuttal? > red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years 0.62% increase over 30 years is next to nothing, especially when you consider that many people have shit diet habits anyway.
Those numbers are assuming 2 servings per week. How many meat eater limits themselves to that few of servings?
> Participants consumed a weekly average of 1.5 servings of processed meat, 3 for unprocessed, 2 for poultry and 1.6 servings of fish. People with higher intake were generally more likely to be smokers, drink more alcohol, have a higher body mass index (BMI) and a lower overall diet quality.
If that's the case then how is it possible for a cohort study to properly control for all of these? Isn't 7% increase in risk basically telling nothing then? The other thing is the methodology. The article says that they used "standard food frequency questionnaire" which I think means Food Frequency Questionnaire. This alone seems like it would have great effects on the efficacy of the research making the results even more questionable.
I'm looking forward to the keto rebuttal.
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Those numbers are assuming 2 servings per week. How many meat eater limits themselves to that few of servings?
The numbers in the study are something like 2 servings meat, 3 chicken, 1.6 fish weekly.
>>>In terms of the actual difference eating 2 servings a week would make to an individual's baseline risk of CVD, the researchers calculated:
processed meat: you would increase your risk by 0.4% over 10 years, 1.02% over 20 years and 1.74% over 30 years
red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years
poultry: 0.20% over 10 years, 0.54% over 20 years and 1.03% over 30 years