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Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#91

I can't imagine being friends with someone who is this incapable of communicating. The solution to this problem is sending a text that says, "Hey, I'm not feeling like coming out today after all. Rain check?" This app is a worse solution than the obvious solution. Trying to be empathetic: if you feel the need to use something like this, I'm not qualified to diagnose you as having social anxiety, but I would suggest y…

I think it's quite funny, and you're taking it a little too serious.

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#92

I can't imagine being friends with someone who is this incapable of communicating. The solution to this problem is sending a text that says, "Hey, I'm not feeling like coming out today after all. Rain check?" This app is a worse solution than the obvious solution. Trying to be empathetic: if you feel the need to use something like this, I'm not qualified to diagnose you as having social anxiety, but I would suggest y…

You could sell the "flake metric" to advertisers.

It would be valuable information to say, used car salesmen.

They could look up a prospective customer wandering around the lot. If the customer asks for a test drive, check the "flake metric" and deny it for high flakers, who are probably just noncommittal tire-kickers.

:)

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#93
post #92

I can't imagine being friends with someone who is this incapable of communicating. The solution to this problem is sending a text that says, "Hey, I'm not feeling like coming out today after all. Rain check?" This app is a worse solution than the obvious solution. Trying to be empathetic: if you feel the need to use something like this, I'm not qualified to diagnose you as having social anxiety, but I would suggest y…

You could sell the "flake metric" to advertisers. It would be valuable information to say, used car salesmen. They could look up a prospective customer wandering around the lot. If the customer asks for a test drive, check the "flake metric" and deny it for high flakers, who are probably just noncommittal tire-kickers. :)

now that is a novel idea!

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#94
To the developer: kudos. Ignore the naysayers. Why build this — why the f* not? It's not like there are apps out there that do the same. And adding another way to interact with people is fun.

That's not to mention it might help people with anxiety. Sure, it's not a silver bullet. I don't know if I'd really use it. But it's novel, and why not.

Now, there's a real problem with this app, and it's that it's a feature turned into a product.

It's a problem because:

1) Bail is not a Google Calendar / Facebook Events replacement, which is what people use to schedule things, AND

2) It would be a great feature in both of these products. If it ever gets implemented, Bail is instantly obsolete.

Again, kudos to you! But as a user, I hope the calendar software I use gets this functionality, and I won't have to introduce anyone to yet another app.

It's not at all a problem unless you're betting everything on this app. Who knows where this will bring you though. Best of luck!

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#95
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this app doesn't send any notification to the other person unless they also bail, so it is not equivalent to sending that text. If the other person doesn't bail, you can stick with the commitment. That opens possibilities, like getting a better opinion about time spent with that person.

That... also sounds worse. This is all just advocating for not actually communicating with your friends. That's not friendship, that's transactional hanging-out.

The optimal choice for using this app is to always bail.

I mean, if you don't bail, the other person(s) might not want to be there.

If "the double bail" does occur; more time to hang out with other people or be alone.

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#96
post #92

I can't imagine being friends with someone who is this incapable of communicating. The solution to this problem is sending a text that says, "Hey, I'm not feeling like coming out today after all. Rain check?" This app is a worse solution than the obvious solution. Trying to be empathetic: if you feel the need to use something like this, I'm not qualified to diagnose you as having social anxiety, but I would suggest y…

You could sell the "flake metric" to advertisers. It would be valuable information to say, used car salesmen. They could look up a prospective customer wandering around the lot. If the customer asks for a test drive, check the "flake metric" and deny it for high flakers, who are probably just noncommittal tire-kickers. :)

I know it's snark, =) but..

Like most data collection, this is far too sparse a dataset to ever be useful.

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#98

Some folks I knew who rented an apartment in East Village to do their own startup had this exact same idea with this exact same name back in '14. I don't think they lasted very long with it and all ended up getting jobs, but this did at least make me check if this was the same folks. Edit: That said, I would pay to use this if it were done well and if I could get all my friends to use it.

I wonder who bailed first?

Did they use the app? Talk about dogfooding...

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#99
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"communicate like a normal human" is a bit unnecessarily negative/aggressive there. Some people genuinely do have trouble with that. belittling them isn't gonna help any...

Normal is a perfectly fine adjective. If you struggle with something like social anxiety by definition that's not normal. Not normal doesn't imply bad, it means not normal

"Not normal doesn't imply bad"

From a purely pedantic standpoint: sure. But, uh, I wouldn't suggest going around dropping that one in conversation with people you'd like to have conversations with in the future.

Re: Bail – Get out of your plans, guilt free

#100
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe its a cultural thing. Around here we grow up and learn to state our preferences honestly and understanding its not hurtful to be truthful but rather the opposite. Weaseling about is something you correct small children on.

Does that extend to backing out of a social engagement at very short notice, simply because you no longer feel like it, without fear of causing offense? I think a lot of people make plans with friends in all sincerity, but sometimes end up feeling tired or socially burned out whatever, and wish they had left the time free but would feel unfriendly canceling at the last minute without a stronger reason. edit: also, I…

Social commitments are called that because they are exactly that: commitments. You promised to your friends you'll show so you just show. If you never flake you don't have to waste precious brain cycles agonizing on whether to cancel.

Do you want to be a flake and do you want others to think of you as a flake? If not, just keep your social commitments. Pretty basic stuff.

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