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Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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Brave's business model is fear mongering.

What's the difference betwen fear mongering and educating about risks?

The difference is the beholder. If the beholder's income is threatened when people are educated about risks, they'll invariably declare it fear mongering.

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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No. The issue is the means used to target ads on this site are transmitted back to ad servers and used outside this context which is a nightmare scenario.

Is this not how targeted ads are expected to work?

Why are there ads on a website funded by taxes?

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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Ha, this came up the other day. Non technical guy suggests we just insert 'Test' into the distinguished name of certificates we want to mark as 'not for production'. We pointed out that one of the many reasons that's a terrible idea is that the Test Valley exists.

Humorous solution: Add test_not_the_valley to all non-prod certificates. I'll see myself out. On a more serious note: Add "testing", "dev", "qa", "internal", or "non-prod" instead. At least those are my goto's for establishing multi-environment separation of configuration data through namespace separation. It isn't an inherently bad way of going about things as long as you keep it consistent and do your best to autom…

Get in the sea!

I prefer to make sure we use a different signing authority, just to be sure. But I didn't give enough context to clue in the reader that that was an option :)

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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Council are the victims here. They are forced to debase themselves because central government, in the Tory era since 2010, simply offloads competencies to local authorities, without allocating extra funds or even slashing existing ones. So the priority has become to keep the lights on and find every way possible to monetize anything remotely monetizable, from parking to this (as well as cutting tons of jobs, closing…

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Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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A better link would probably be the actual report, “Surveillance on UK council websites” https://brave.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Surveillance-on... At least that report doesn’t start every sentence with “Brave”.

Ok, we've changed the URL to that from https://brave.com/ukcouncilsreport/. Thanks!

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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Is this not how targeted ads are expected to work?

Why are there ads on a website funded by taxes?

In order to easily cross-promote other services with suppression and retargeting. Someone able to edit some content can do it rather than requiring the CMS to support this and training the council staff on this.

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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Sorry for the editorialized title but it was too long...

That wasn't editorialized, that was a gallant attempt to fit both the site guidelines and the 80 char limit. The only thing I'd have done differently was take out "Brave" from the title, since it's in the domain next to the title, and since they provide enough mentions of "Brave" themselves. (Submitted title was "Brave uncovers widespread surveillance of UK citizens on UK council websites".)

It's moot now because we switched to the pdf and taken its shorter title.

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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It may be hardly news to you; but it is to me. --- I've just taken a look around my local councils site. I've gone onto the benefits pages, the disability pages, and a few random pages. There are literally zero trackers here. I have a first party cookie set to the value "1". All images and JS are served first party, with the exception of typekit (adobe) fonts. All images and JS are, without a deep dive, benign. https…

Perhaps my turn of phrase was less than ideal there.... but yeah, I've been pissed off about this for a while but got nowhere. Some of the stuff in this report is worse, of course, than just including GA. (edit - Just looked at test valley site there, it brings in google analytics, though seems clean otherwise. Also Hey neighbour! I'm based in Southampton at the moment)

Ahh, the part after the hyphens is something I wrote after the initial comment I didn't mean it to sound so abrupt.

Notably my test method was completely and utterly flawed - I used a Firefox Private Browsing window forgetting it blocks content-trackers (like GA). Still, having now visited it properly it is as you say.

And Hey! I'm down in soton every week :D

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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What is interesting is the fact that none of the revenue / income from advertising if any, is showing in the accounts of the council. Checked a few at random and none of the account statements mention income from ads. Begs the question then not just of moral bankruptcy but of accounting this. If it's not implemented for income to the council then why ?

> If it's not implemented for income to the council then why analytics? To better serve you? to think-of-the-children?

Careful, some people may not pick up on that sarcasm.

Re: Surveillance on UK council websites [pdf]

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Sorry for the editorialized title but it was too long...

That wasn't editorialized, that was a gallant attempt to fit both the site guidelines and the 80 char limit. The only thing I'd have done differently was take out "Brave" from the title, since it's in the domain next to the title, and since they provide enough mentions of "Brave" themselves. (Submitted title was "Brave uncovers widespread surveillance of UK citizens on UK council websites".) It's moot now because we…

> that was a gallant attempt to fit both the site guidelines and the 80 char limit

Well thank you kind sir

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