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Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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One time I was working on a Splunk thing at an old job. We had an engineering contact there, and when a question came up about how something in Splunk was tested, the guy literally just replied back to our email with that meme and no other details. Yikes?

Devs that respond with memes are either really bad (like 80%) or really, really good.

The really good ones are the ones who respond with memes on an internal Slack, not to someone outside of the org.

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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There's no such thing as an "Iowa DNC". You presumably mean the IDP, the Iowa Democratic Party. They're separate organizations. The DNC and the state parties are often at odds with each other. There's a good series of "Reply All" episodes about this, focusing on the Alabama Democratic Party.

Since I heard those episodes I've been hoping that the Alabama situation isn't typical. Do you have any special insight about Iowa? Is there an Iowa kingmaker running everything from behind the scenes?

Most notably, the IDP has a strong interest in maintaining their first-to-vote status, which the DNC hates. Hence the eternal drift of primaries earlier and earlier - the DNC will try to move non-Iowa/NH primaries earlier, and those two will in response go even earlier to preempt them. (To the point where New Hampshire even passed a law saying that they have to be the first primary by at least 7 days.)

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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Maybe what I am thinking is that, if it is a real business with products that are agnostic any user would benefit from a much higher quality product. I don't know enough about software in politics to understand just how ridiculous this idea might be. Perhaps an example might serve as a better explanation of what I am thinking: Trello is a real company with a product that is agnostic. Politicians of any school of thou…

The essential factors [1] are: * There are types of software that are politics-specific, and therefore do not exist until a party pays for it to be made. * Politics is a zero-sum game: if you're funding software (either institutionally, or by being a tech worker who works below market wage For The Cause), you don't want it to be used by your political opponents. So commodity stuff that already exists is bipartisan. A…

What is personally interesting to me as a classical liberal is to watch how both main parties engage with followers. I generally sign up for updates from both parties from local all the way up to federal level. I do this with a dedicated email address. It is interesting to watch the approach, intensity and messaging coming out of each camp. It is also interesting to watch how far and wide your email address and info is shared. Definitely do not do this with an email account you care about.

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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"The application is literally tables of relational data with multiple simultaneous users" How is this data "relational"? Each precinct has 3 numbers to submit for each candidate, that's not a big task for one person, and none of those precinct's candidates numbers are related to anything else in the db except the grand total of all precincts numbers and that's a one way relationship. The grand totals never change any…

> How is this data "relational"? Each precinct has 3 numbers to submit for each candidate The numbers relate to each candidate. It's that simple!

That is just silly. Reminds me of the old saying; "When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail."

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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What about the Iowa Caucuses makes you believe these are "high information" voters? They often have nonsensical positions and ranked choices. They're committed voters, but that is not at all the same thing.

This [0] was my favorite "high information voter" story so far. [0] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mayor-pete-buttigieg-gay-iowa-c...

That's the obvious and vivid example, but more broadly and tellingly are people's stated preferences and the outcomes of realignments, where people are oscillating between progressive and moderate candidates. I see no evidence that Iowa voters are "high-information"; I think most of them see participatory politics as a sport, just like voters in every other state.

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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I started a company that was asked to write a proposal to make what became the app that failed last night. I declined because it was outside of our core skillset. You can read my prior comments or look at my profile to validate this. If you want my perspective as someone who started a Democratic software company, you should keep reading. This app emerged from a mandate to make the caucus more accessible and transpare…

Curiously... Any take on Michael Slaby, Timshel (defunct), The Groundwork (defunct), the dozens (up to 70 at one point, many from SV/NYC) of engineers that worked on it for roughly two years in close contact with HFA 2016 (The Groundwork was right down the street from HFA 2016 HQ), and the $700,000 that HFA 2016 paid for that work? More generally, do you think there is a problem with for-profits which focus on political organizations under the guise of "focusing on non-profit"? How often do you think illegal in-kind contributions take place through these companies to political campaigns?

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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I don't think that's a better theory. The process may be 'bad' but it has been that way, and worked, for a long time. As far as we know, the new ingredient was the app.

> The process may be 'bad' but it has been that way, and worked, for a long time. The process has never worked. I attended a couple caucuses myself between becoming 17 [0] and leaving Iowa. I still hear about them from family. They have various flaws. The most severe one IMHO is that due to the time commitment, they only reflect the voice of die-hards and/or those with few responsibilities. That's true for choosing t…

Yes, I just meant that it has worked in the sense of reporting timely results. I agree there are other flaws with caucuses.

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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I started a company that was asked to write a proposal to make what became the app that failed last night. I declined because it was outside of our core skillset. You can read my prior comments or look at my profile to validate this. If you want my perspective as someone who started a Democratic software company, you should keep reading. This app emerged from a mandate to make the caucus more accessible and transpare…

Curiously... Any take on Michael Slaby, Timshel (defunct), The Groundwork (defunct), the dozens (up to 70 at one point, many from SV/NYC) of engineers that worked on it for roughly two years in close contact with HFA 2016 (The Groundwork was right down the street from HFA 2016 HQ), and the $700,000 that HFA 2016 paid for that work? More generally, do you think there is a problem with for-profits which focus on politi…

I worked with Michael Slaby in 2008 and 2012. He's an incredible technology manager. He's great at punching up and fighting for his engineer's perspectives and helping upper management understand limitations and then getting out of the way.

Since that time he's probably had his own epiphanies from working in industry but one of mine was that we did shockingly little QA and everything was built as fast as humanly possible. Everything was building the airplane in the air and it was largely due to constraints of the political or legal kind. Timeline management and allocating resources to testing was always an afterthought.

Testing usually comes from a feedback loop of launching broken features, incident response, manager gets in hot water, engineer gets in hot water, engineer proposes testing plan, manager uses incident as primary source reference to secure additional budget, testing implemented.

In politics no service, company, initiative, or team lasts long enough to complete the cycle.

Re: The Shadow Inc. app that failed in Iowa last night

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The Democratic Party must be destroyed to save it. This is a material manifestation of underlying shit, just a symptom at several degrees of remove from any more-than-superficial cause. The only thing that could conceivably provide a systematic opening to fix things (ie, not just fixing specific things, after they've become apparent, because they've already catastrophically failed), in the realm of badly-written scie…

...ratfucked... If they ratfuck him this time anywhere near as bad as they did last time, he'll run independent. In that case, Trump will win even more easily than I've been expecting since February 2017. Of course, Trump has a sort of death wish, so he could invade Canada or something and then Bernie would win without owing anything to the other face of the status quo party. The most recent results (at 62% reporting…

He will never in a billion years run as independent. You're patently wrong. He hates Trump more than his supporters do.
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