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Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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The people who come along later to scale to those millions of users your site attracted might.

Is there any (standard) technology stack that has proven to be unscalable?

Yes. The one you started out with is always unscalable.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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The people who come along later to scale to those millions of users your site attracted might.

Is there any (standard) technology stack that has proven to be unscalable?

I recall twitter originally being written in something that proved unscalable, so they had to switch. Can't remember what it was though.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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The people who come along later to scale to those millions of users your site attracted might.

This is what I don't get. ASP.NET scales pretty well as Joel opines. Why do people think .NET is bad just because it feels enterprise-y? More: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWHfY_lvKIQ

You're right, .NET (even though I despise it) scales as well as anything else. Scalability is much more about design decisions than language/platform choice.

However, Joel Spolsky is a tool. Everyone I know and respect thinks he's a tool. He is a prime example of being successful because of being lucky, rather than being good. Do not quote Joel, he can't form a valid argument for a topic without circling back on himself to save his life.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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Is there any (standard) technology stack that has proven to be unscalable?

I recall twitter originally being written in something that proved unscalable, so they had to switch. Can't remember what it was though.

It was Rails and, it wasn't that it wasn't unscalable but because they did it wrong then, they hired a bunch of developers that knew nothing about Rails, so of course they moved a lot of new and core development to other technologies.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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The people who come along later to scale to those millions of users your site attracted might.

You almost always have to rewrite your whole system anyway to scale to millions of users. It doesn't matter whether it's PHP, Python, C++, or ASP.NET; it'll have to be rewritten. The real problem is the flip-side of something that the OP mentioned as an advantage: ASP.NET coders tend to be cheaper, less experienced, and hence less likely to know about some critical detail that'll boost adoption, whether it's usabilit…

To me this sounds like my friends who didn't want to go to UT because it 'was too big'. The awesome thing about too big is that if you look hard enough you are almost assured of finding someone like you.

Yes there are crappy c# developers. I've also seen some bad ass c#.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any (standard) technology stack that has proven to be unscalable?

I recall twitter originally being written in something that proved unscalable, so they had to switch. Can't remember what it was though.

They didn't actually switch. They still use Ruby on Rails. They do use more things like Scala now than they used to.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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Is there any (standard) technology stack that has proven to be unscalable?

Yes. The one you started out with is always unscalable.

I wish I could give you a 1000 up-votes for this. I'm so sick of hearing the rhetoric about language X not being able to scale.

Repeat after me, if your app doesn't scale it is YOUR fault, not a language, platform or framework. Scalability is about design and implementation, not what tools you use.

Re: Nobody really gives a damn what you built your site in (why I chose asp.net).

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The people who come along later to scale to those millions of users your site attracted might.

Perhaps you would be interested in purchasing my Scaling Insurance?

It costs a ton upfront, and it's likely to kill your nascent company, but if you ever make it big, you'll save a tiny bit of money in the long run!

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