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Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
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Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#42Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
His first comment is now -19 and his other two were -3 before I came in here. Why all the pile-on downvoting for no real reason, people? Are those comments really worth -19?
It is called karma bombing and it just proves the point. Compare it to the solution where there's a recommendation system that helps everybody involved: the ones downvoting the posts will form one cluster, the ones upvoting them will be in another. People that like stories like that will see more, people that do not will be spared from them.
It's a community response to your suggestion that we should leave Hacker News and go to Jaanix because of the evils of downvoting. Downvoting is communication, it's really not a fault of the system if you find it too painful to hear.
Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is called karma bombing and it just proves the point. Compare it to the solution where there's a recommendation system that helps everybody involved: the ones downvoting the posts will form one cluster, the ones upvoting them will be in another. People that like stories like that will see more, people that do not will be spared from them.
It's a community response to your suggestion that we should leave Hacker News and go to Jaanix because of the evils of downvoting. Downvoting is communication, it's really not a fault of the system if you find it too painful to hear.
My communication skills must be terrible, but I'm not asking anybody to leave. Hacker News is great, but it covers only small subset of all the news out there.
Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a community response to your suggestion that we should leave Hacker News and go to Jaanix because of the evils of downvoting. Downvoting is communication, it's really not a fault of the system if you find it too painful to hear.
My communication skills must be terrible, but I'm not asking anybody to leave. Hacker News is great, but it covers only small subset of all the news out there.
Funnily enough, I (and I guess many people here) am only interested in a small subset of "all the news out there". More is less.
Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a community response to your suggestion that we should leave Hacker News and go to Jaanix because of the evils of downvoting. Downvoting is communication, it's really not a fault of the system if you find it too painful to hear.
My communication skills must be terrible, but I'm not asking anybody to leave. Hacker News is great, but it covers only small subset of all the news out there.
Pointing out what you (and others) see as a problem with this news site, and suggest it as a reason to go to your news site, only makes sense if you don't see them as independent.
Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#47Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#48I've managed to keep from being incessantly downvoted in my unpopular opinions by providing well documented arguments (logos, with an occasional appeal to ethos of sources), tying to personal credibility or experience (ethos), or providing personal experience developing an empathic response, then tying into into the main argument. (pathos -> logos, or just pathos.) The problem isn't disagreement - it's not developing…
This is a great strategy for comments. How does it help when you want to post a story on reddit that you think is important but unfortunately is highly controversial? (Hacker News doesn't have downvote for stories for exactly this reason, thanks!) How does it help when people are downvoting you not only for your opinion but for who you are? Karma is a great tool to manage trolls and signal / noise. Unfortunately in r…
If you made downvotes more scarce, then people would only use them if they absolutely had to. Maybe they would prioritize trolls and noise? Somehow, I think we're not quite that wise.
Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#49Your Site Has Down Votes, I looked at it, it does.
The downvotes on our site serve totally different purpose. They do not censor - they cluster. They let you find people that share your values. Same with upvotes, also there's no karma to gain or lose.
While I see the point of such a thing, I don't like the idea of only reading the posts of people sharing my values/ideas. I already have my values/ideas and reading them will reinforce, instead of expand, them.
Re: Are you sick of being downvoted for having a different opinion?
#50I've managed to keep from being incessantly downvoted in my unpopular opinions by providing well documented arguments (logos, with an occasional appeal to ethos of sources), tying to personal credibility or experience (ethos), or providing personal experience developing an empathic response, then tying into into the main argument. (pathos -> logos, or just pathos.) The problem isn't disagreement - it's not developing…
This is a great strategy for comments. How does it help when you want to post a story on reddit that you think is important but unfortunately is highly controversial? (Hacker News doesn't have downvote for stories for exactly this reason, thanks!) How does it help when people are downvoting you not only for your opinion but for who you are? Karma is a great tool to manage trolls and signal / noise. Unfortunately in r…
I don't tend to post stories. :) If I were looking for posts, I would likely post it in a personal blog then write my own interpretation, using effective argumentation, re-presenting the arguments targeted to a more critical audience.
That is a lot of commitment, though. However, an argument can do more harm than good if it is not written for a general audience.