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Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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I don't understand why Google and some other tech companies use their users as involuntary, unpaid guinea pigs. No consent. No opt-out. What's the motivation? Is it simple laziness because they don't want to deal with wetware? Is it afraid that if people knew what was happening they wouldn't be happy? Google has eighty brazillion employees it can test new features on.

1. It's about the money.

2. See 1.

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

#62
With that said, one can simply filter out these analytics with a c:\Windows\Systems32\Drivers\etc\hosts -> pointing to 0.0.0.0 or PiHole solution (https://pi-hole.net/), yes?

I mean, this is probably not the holistic solution, but this is why we have a firewall, vpn, antivirus, filters to just keep DNS in check, yes?

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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Doubtlessly, this will be rationalized and justified as being necessary for, and in the best interest of, consumers... ...but inevitably, it will be used for tracking -- regardless of intent. It might also get Google in trouble. Copying and pasting from the a comment in the OP's URL: > Example: https://www.youtube.com - in network headers, look for x-client-data > Now, go to https://ad.doubleclick.net/abc - and your…

This comment is unreadable on mobile. https://i.imgur.com/jFusqw0.png Could you please remove the four-space indent? You can wrap each paragraph in * ... * if you want to italic them.

You may give https://hackerweb.app a try! Aside: It is read only though.

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #37

You should also donate to Mozilla because it’s an insanely good piece o software for the price!

Firefox should definitely be used, but donating to Mozilla is a mistake. They waste a lot of it, their executive compensation rates are way too high (especially given that MoCo just laid off employees), and Mozilla still hasn't kept up with promises they gave years ago (that Pocket is still proprietary being a notable and depressing example). Donate to smaller developers of software you use, it'll go a lot further, a…

Donations go to Mozilla "the non-profit organization" rather than Mozilla "the corporation".

Mozilla (the corporation) has the typical/bad corporate structures and ridiculous executive compensations. Mozilla (the corporation) had the layoffs. Mozilla (the corporation) bought Pocket with money that comes from deals with search engines.

That being said, though...

> Donate to smaller developers of software you use, it'll go a lot further, and they'll probably put it to better use!

... is still a great point.

(Updated this because "Mozilla, Org" and "Mozilla, Inc" were inaccurate)

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

#65

You should also donate to Mozilla because it’s an insanely good piece o software for the price!

So I pay for Pocket Premium as it is wholly owned by Mozilla as a way of diversifying their income away from search and donations. I like and use pocket and get something in exchange for my money (which makes me more likely to keep a rolling payment going on). II know it’s not open source, but tbh that doesn’t hugely bother me given that Firefox itself is.

Does anyone object to this indirect way of funding Firefox? Does it cause indirect harm by making them prioritise pocket over Firefox?

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox should definitely be used, but donating to Mozilla is a mistake. They waste a lot of it, their executive compensation rates are way too high (especially given that MoCo just laid off employees), and Mozilla still hasn't kept up with promises they gave years ago (that Pocket is still proprietary being a notable and depressing example). Donate to smaller developers of software you use, it'll go a lot further, a…

Also, Mozilla made donations to political entities in the past

Which ones? Eich donated like $1000 to a political group that (I would hope) most of us disagree with, but Eich != Mozilla, and he was removed because of the backlash

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #27

I haven't read this carefully enough to decide exactly how bad it is, but one thing seems clear to me: From what I see many techies are now aware and upset, and hardly anyone seems to want to defend Google anymore. I consider it more likely than not that Google will take some real beatings in the years to come. Kind of like Microsoft was fined by the US and EU, forced to advertise for competing browsers and ridiculed…

More and more people are blocking ads. Google’s business model is under threat. They will turn into hyenas in order to survive.

Good point. Although I feel their hyena nature has been visible for a while now and what we are now seeing is hungry hyena :-)

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

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post #57

I don't understand why Google and some other tech companies use their users as involuntary, unpaid guinea pigs. No consent. No opt-out. What's the motivation? Is it simple laziness because they don't want to deal with wetware? Is it afraid that if people knew what was happening they wouldn't be happy? Google has eighty brazillion employees it can test new features on.

... what? If you aren't paying for it; you are the product. Simple.

Nowadays you are the product even if you pay. (E.g. Subscription news sites including trackers on subscribed users, smartTVs siphoning data etc)

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

#69

You should also donate to Mozilla because it’s an insanely good piece o software for the price!

I agree with the endorsement as a FF/TB user. However, I would stop at charity shaming, as there is always a different side to the story.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22057737

Re: Google tracks individual users per Chrome installation ID

#70

You should also donate to Mozilla because it’s an insanely good piece o software for the price!

Sorry, I can't bring myself to trust them after pocket, mr. robot, and of course the time they fired that guy for having a fetish. I might use their browser product if it ever seems like it'll be better for my needs but I'm certainly not giving them money.
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