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When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by mikorym »

jedberg wrote: post #7

My first time in Finland was last May (incidentally to give a talk at Smartly in the very office featured in the photo). I love Finland. You can tell from the moment you arrive that the entire country cares about the welfare of everyone there. It started when we got on the train from the airport. We were told that not only do kids ride public transit for free, but anyone pushing their stroller does too. Talk about su…

I think it takes a very conscious effort for a society to get to that stage.

In some countries, you see individual greed being pushed to crazy extremes. Notwithstanding dictatorships, some politicians are willingly and wittingly sacrificing millions of people for a single individual objective. But I think the latter is the default position of humanity. The opposite is also a problem: When you justify every action as "for the millions".

The vikings were particularly murderous people and have become particularly peaceful. (But I guess the Finns are not vikings for that matter.)

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

jedberg wrote: post #7

My first time in Finland was last May (incidentally to give a talk at Smartly in the very office featured in the photo). I love Finland. You can tell from the moment you arrive that the entire country cares about the welfare of everyone there. It started when we got on the train from the airport. We were told that not only do kids ride public transit for free, but anyone pushing their stroller does too. Talk about su…

Finland is actually great for summer holidays (although a bit expensive) - and I think it will become more popular as summers in other parts of Europe Europe get hotter and hotter. One thing you will need to get used though is the light in the night. You wait for it to get dark, you wait, and... it never happens. Very strange.

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by PappaPatat »

Symbiote wrote: post #9
versale wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I was offered to give a tip at "O'Leary's" in the IsoOmena mall (Espoo) when paying the bill with my Visa Electron. It felt awkward and I've been avoiding the place since then.

Were you speaking English? In Denmark, I'm much more likely to have the card payment machine prompt for a tip if the waiter thinks the group is foreign. Otherwise, they often press "Nej" themselves.

Swiss here: can relate.

Specifically American tourists get confused if there is no tip possibility offered with carding machines.

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by paganel »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #8

Am I the only one who finds it awkward? I mean, if this was €100, then maybe, but this is €5, I leave this kind of money around my desk regularly and nobody cares - why on Earth would you bother posting this kind of stuff on social media?

Because many people wrongly assume that those people who happen to be lower paid (in this case, a cleaner) also have higher chances of being “thieves” or of having lower moral standards, and as such it comes as a surprise to them when they find out that cleaners (for this example) are just like everybody else. I find it incredible classist, but I don’t think that’s anything much that can be done, this attitude is too entrenched on both sides of the political spectrum.

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #8

Am I the only one who finds it awkward? I mean, if this was €100, then maybe, but this is €5, I leave this kind of money around my desk regularly and nobody cares - why on Earth would you bother posting this kind of stuff on social media?

> why on Earth would you bother posting this kind of stuff on social media?

Because it is a marketing campaign.

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by jedberg »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #12
jedberg wrote: post #7

My first time in Finland was last May (incidentally to give a talk at Smartly in the very office featured in the photo). I love Finland. You can tell from the moment you arrive that the entire country cares about the welfare of everyone there. It started when we got on the train from the airport. We were told that not only do kids ride public transit for free, but anyone pushing their stroller does too. Talk about su…

Finland is actually great for summer holidays (although a bit expensive) - and I think it will become more popular as summers in other parts of Europe Europe get hotter and hotter. One thing you will need to get used though is the light in the night. You wait for it to get dark, you wait, and... it never happens. Very strange.

I’m totally cool with that part! I remember walking home from the event and thinking “wow the streets are empty considering how early it is” only to realize it was 10:30pm.

The lat few days of our trip the sun never set. Blackout shades are all I need to solve that.

It’s the lack of sun in winter I couldn’t handle.

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by exdsq »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #12
jedberg wrote: post #7

My first time in Finland was last May (incidentally to give a talk at Smartly in the very office featured in the photo). I love Finland. You can tell from the moment you arrive that the entire country cares about the welfare of everyone there. It started when we got on the train from the airport. We were told that not only do kids ride public transit for free, but anyone pushing their stroller does too. Talk about su…

Finland is actually great for summer holidays (although a bit expensive) - and I think it will become more popular as summers in other parts of Europe Europe get hotter and hotter. One thing you will need to get used though is the light in the night. You wait for it to get dark, you wait, and... it never happens. Very strange.

Go during the winter and you wait for it to get light, you wait, and... it never happens! :P

Re: When a cleaner finds 5 euros at a Finnish office

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Post by kortilla »

jedberg wrote: post #7

My first time in Finland was last May (incidentally to give a talk at Smartly in the very office featured in the photo). I love Finland. You can tell from the moment you arrive that the entire country cares about the welfare of everyone there. It started when we got on the train from the airport. We were told that not only do kids ride public transit for free, but anyone pushing their stroller does too. Talk about su…

Yet nearly identical risk percentage of poverty as the US: https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/finland/usa?sc=...

Maybe the key difference is that poverty is better hidden in Finland with more available shelters?

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