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Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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The camera is bird's eye on the google presentation. And it is a recording. So jitter/flicker can be cleaned up/smoothed out and the data can be massaged in ways that a real time system may not be able to do. This is a presentation. I'd be /very/ surprised if this animation was from RAW data as-is. Also there seems to be Lidar data (point clouds) which Tesla doesn't have. So while this means bounding boxes may have l…

It diminishes the comparison when just the lidar for a waymo car costs more than the entire tesla vehicle. So, not only can you afford a tesla vehicle, you can go out and buy one today.

According to [1] Waymo produces its own lidars. In 2017 it costed $7500 without being mass produced.

Edit: wording.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/8/14206084/google-waymo-self...

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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More capital volume happened on TSLA today than SPY. Do you think that's a retail bubble? Only the top 1% of global asset controllers have the ability to do that.

Why do you think it's appreciating? Do you believe that volume comes from large asset controllers going long at that price level?

Couldn't find the source but supposedly today was long buying as opposed to short covering. One theory is funds buying ahead of S&P 500 inclusion.

E: https://twitter.com/ihors3/status/1224362065906872322

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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Compare Google's system from five years ago.[1] (at 7:42) This new video is at n00b level compared to that. [1] https://embed.ted.com/talks/chris_urmson_how_a_driverless_ca...

Please understand, Tesla works only with only Camera & Radars (at L2 level). Where as Google Waymo works with pretty expensive and lot of redundant sensors ie., 360degree LIDAR, cameras & Radars (at L4 level). Tesla sells vehicles in volumes, Waymo doesn't (as it is exhorbitant). Hence comparison is not apple to apple. I do agree Visualisation in the google video is more appealing. I assume Tesla also has state of ar…

What are these levels you are referring to? We drive just fine with two cameras.

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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post #561
post #495

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It diminishes the comparison when just the lidar for a waymo car costs more than the entire tesla vehicle. So, not only can you afford a tesla vehicle, you can go out and buy one today.

According to [1] Waymo produces its own lidars. In 2017 it costed $7500 without being mass produced. Edit: wording. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/8/14206084/google-waymo-self...

I guess I CAN afford a Tesla...

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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Plus Tesla still does not report disengagements to the CA dmv, right? It seems so strange to me that their HQ is there and they do not report any testing there.

Either Tesla: (1) Call it a 'driver assist system' and carry that definition beyond all reasonable bounds. I've read the regulation, I don't think that defense would stand up in court. (2) Does physical testing somewhere other than California. The testing regulation is fairly onerous, and I could see them saying 'nah' we'll do this in Arizona, Nevada, etc. You're right they don't report disengagements, but they still…

They actively avoid reporting test results in CA.

Nothing about that changes due to semantics (your #1) or if they test elsewhere (your #2).

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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post #555

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Why do you think it's appreciating? Do you believe that volume comes from large asset controllers going long at that price level?

Couldn't find the source but supposedly today was long buying as opposed to short covering. One theory is funds buying ahead of S&P 500 inclusion. E: https://twitter.com/ihors3/status/1224362065906872322

That sounds plausible, thanks!

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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Compare Google's system from five years ago.[1] (at 7:42) This new video is at n00b level compared to that. [1] https://embed.ted.com/talks/chris_urmson_how_a_driverless_ca...

Well, there's no harm for Google in publishing more since the project will inevitably be "sunset" and is an uneconomical research prototype, while Tesla's is a production version that people actually use.

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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post #495

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It diminishes the comparison when just the lidar for a waymo car costs more than the entire tesla vehicle. So, not only can you afford a tesla vehicle, you can go out and buy one today.

Can you go out and buy a fully self driving Tesla today? Because that would be the relevant comparison.

Can you buy any sort of waymo at all?

Re: Tesla's self driving algorithm's overlay [video]

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Compare Google's system from five years ago.[1] (at 7:42) This new video is at n00b level compared to that. [1] https://embed.ted.com/talks/chris_urmson_how_a_driverless_ca...

Waymo is at least 5 years ahead of Tesla. They are running driverless self driving cars already on city streets. My Model 3 can’t even navigate a parking a lot half the time I use the summon feature.

In one very small geo, waymo is maybe 1-2 years ahead.
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