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Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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Am I wrong to find it concerning that Africa and South America has yet to report a single case?

You are not wrong to find this concerning.

Especially given China's growing presence in Africa, there has to be quite a bit of travel between Africa and China.

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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Then it intuitively seems there already are many people infected all over the world and we can't really prevent the infection from spreading, the measures being taken are futile. Brace yourself, buy grocery supplies and prepare your immune systems - start sleeping enough, eating healthy etc now.

Not even joking I quit drinking and started eating healthier as I followed this. I have been watching and reading since it was a few hundred confirmed cases and I think it will become a very large outbreak.

Quit drinking?!

Alcohol kills viruses!

Didn't you pay attention to the Andromeda Strain documentary?

I plan on staying home and drinking heavily.

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Any link / proof ?

I had a look at some news from L'viv: "Two people who returned from China were hospitalized in Lviv with signs of ARD (acute respiratory disease)" (1) "Last week, nearly 13,000 people became ill in the Lviv region with influenza and SARS" (2) Primarily among kids and young adults, in the article they say the weather is especially conducive to the spread of the flu right now; I wouldn't automatically link it to the vi…

Hmm, is that article using a different definition of SARS, because 13000 with SARS should double the panic of this coronavirus...

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China will likely not be able to contain the virus at this stage. it also could mutate and change it's behavior.

> it also could mutate and change it's behavior. With flu / colds, my understanding is that it's typically milder mutations which end up thriving, as the milder the symptoms, the more likely people are to try to carry on with their normal lives rather than isolating themselves (and thus infect more people).

This virus is not effecting everyone with the same intensity. A 10 year child didn't get sick but his Grand parents and parents did. His parents got him tested for Wuhan Virus anyway as they were scared about it and he tested positive for it. We will really find out how far this virus has spread by end of Feb.

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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Am I wrong to find it concerning that Africa and South America has yet to report a single case?

2019-nCoV targets ACE2 receptor cells in the lung.

Current estimated death rate is 15% (based on now slightly out-of-date Lancet articles).

Asian men are the most susceptible group.

Male / female infection rate currently about 3:1 (but based on low statistics).

Ratio of ACE2 cells in Asian men to Asian women is about 4:1.

Ratio of ACE2 cells in Asian men compared to whites or African-Americans is 5:1.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1....

See some criticisms of the methods and results in the comments. Interesting correlation of ACE2 to stress and high blood-pressure, so could be strongly affected by some treatments for hypertension.

It is just about possible, in some qualitative hand-waving way, that reducing susceptibility by 80% could drop R0 from 5 to 1, hence reduce the threat of an epidemic in other regions.

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Linking back to that live-updated map, which I find pretty good: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22168451

I think this Baidu map is updated faster as they have access to more China news compared to any Western news outlet. But they lag behind a bit for the international count. This link works mostly fine with Google auto translate. https://voice.baidu.com/act/newpneumonia/newpneumonia

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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You are not wrong to find this concerning.

Especially given China's growing presence in Africa, there has to be quite a bit of travel between Africa and China.

They probably have no way to test it.

Also -very maybe- the (rich) chinese are preparing their future secret extractions

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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GIGO - The numbers from China are a complete fiction - amazes me how gullible and slow the mainstream media has been to catch onto what has been really going on in China. Peak Prosperity Videos are quite good at making sense of the sporadic info that does escape the China censors https://youtu.be/P_3hNPTofEU Huge crematoriums with 30 ovens each are running 24/7 to deal with the deaths - most estimates from citizen jo…

Oh come on, like I'm going to trust the panic video from the guy selling survivalist porn. /r/CoronaVirus hosts a similar gathering of nutters.

That sub is full of preppers with a romantic idea of the zombie apocalypse. And now they feel their dream has come true.

It's amusing to read how many people in the sub are buying ammo as their first priority.

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I had a look at some news from L'viv: "Two people who returned from China were hospitalized in Lviv with signs of ARD (acute respiratory disease)" (1) "Last week, nearly 13,000 people became ill in the Lviv region with influenza and SARS" (2) Primarily among kids and young adults, in the article they say the weather is especially conducive to the spread of the flu right now; I wouldn't automatically link it to the vi…

Hmm, is that article using a different definition of SARS, because 13000 with SARS should double the panic of this coronavirus...

Indeed! The original article says ГРВІ which is a local abbreviation of acute respiratory viral infection and a typical label for any viral cold-like illness. Now is a peak of flue / cold season in Ukraine, so there is nothing unusual. Some people are just panicky.

P.S. https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80...

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