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Post by TaylorAlexander »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #354
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #342

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Agreed. It also said it was running at 13fps. Not stoked about a vehicle going 70mph updating at 13fps.

Tesla says their "Hardware 3", which is what you get if you buy it now, can process all cameras at 60fps.

I find it odd that they would publish a video showing performance numbers from out of date hardware. I mean I believe you - I watched the presentation in their custom processor and it’s quite impressive. Just weird that they’re showing old performance numbers. Perhaps this video is old.

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runj__ wrote: post #84
tamersalama wrote: post #31

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Wouldn't the data decide what the rule is? I'm guessing if in NYC, a more aggressive driving style is the norm - the models and the pipeline should be capable of adjusting to that.

Adjusted for New York driving the AI evens flings up the doors randomly to smack down cyclists!

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Post by gowld »

kodablah wrote: post #134
dx87 wrote: post #97

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The car stopping if another car goes before it brings up another issue. If self driving cars start showing up on the road and are recognizable, you'd be able to "bully" the self driving cars since you know it'll always give right away. Imagine being stuck on an on-ramp behind a car that is programmed with infinite patience and extreme risk aversion; you could be sitting there quite a while.

That's not the real issue, that's just the initial domino. The real issue is how self-driving companies will combat that. They'll surely want to record film at all times and have a pipeline to law enforcement to curb suspected bullies. It's often the over-correcting solution that becomes the bigger problem. There are analogues in other human-robot interactions.

Imagine if cars were given the same authority to generate citations as redlight cameras and schoolbus cameras. They'd be cheap to free and financed by kickbacks from law enforcement.

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Post by m463 »

agumonkey wrote: post #108
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #69

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"Tell us, what extraordinary work you have done?" I wrote code that worked.... I like boring things.

I like to check for ranges and limits

would that more languages let you do this proactively.

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Post by ModernMech »

bonyt wrote: post #315
krm01 wrote: post #140

It still strikes me why so many people are still against a future with self driving cars. Sure, people throughout history are scared of change & new tech. But if you look at this video and compare the amount of stuff the camera catches AND processes, with the things you are seeing & processing, it's really hard for me to see me being better at it than a computer. The reality of driving (as a human) is that most of it…

> But if you look at this video and compare the amount of stuff the camera catches AND processes, with the things you are seeing & processing, it's really hard for me to see me being better at it than a computer. I wonder if the fear has more to do with it simply being different. The set of things that a CV system misses is likely quite different from the set of things that a human misses. A CV system is likely to ma…

> And yet, there surely exists a class of noises that a human would mistake for a word that an Echo would not

This fits the bill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon

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Post by brokenmachine »

strbean wrote: post #247
rahulnair23 wrote: post #211

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I'd suggest reading the NTSB report on the pedestrian killed by Uber's "self-driving" vehicle [0]. The vehicle misclassified Elaine Herzberg so many times in the seconds leading up to taking her out at 40 mph - its clear to me that none of this is ready for public use. We are so normalised to vehicular violence. This would never be allowed in any other sector, say healthcare for instance. [0] https://www.ntsb.gov/new…

To be fair, jaywalking at night away from any streetlights on a road with a 45 mph speed limit is a risky endeavor whether or not there are autonomous cars on the road. It seems likely the outcome would have been the same if the car was being operated by a typical human driver.

The car spotted the pedestrian 5.6 seconds before the crash, but didn't have the brains to know what to do.

The main argument for self driving cars is that they have better sensors and reaction time than humans, but clearly those things aren't enough.

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Post by Rebelgecko »

Seenso wrote: post #137
nickik wrote: post #120

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Tesla and SpaceX, specially SpaceX has been rated very highly in some rating I have seen. But there is a reputation that it is a lot of work specially in crunch time.

>> Tesla & SpaceX have a reputation for being a terrible place to work, with Musk expecting everyone to be working as hard (or harder) than him, and firing people in weird and capricious ways. > specially SpaceX has been rated very highly in some rating I have seen. IIRC, SpaceX has a COO who handles much of the day-to-day management, so the employees there are shielded from much of Musk's management style.

I may have a biased sample because I know more former SpaceX employees than current ones (and I'm sure it varies from team to team), but being overworked is the #1 complaint I've heard. Like, to the point where someone working 60 hour weeks is considered a slacker because they take Sundays off.
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