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Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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If we were letting racism against the Chinese dominate our response, we’d be dismissing the outbreak while numbers outside China were small.

The outbreak is being handled very well through the Chinese planned economy. Despite this, Western media is intensifying the panic. As a result of it, Chinese people are being discriminated against worldwide.

> The outbreak is being handled very well through the Chinese planned economy.

It may (or may not) be being handled as well as any government could, but its not being effectively contained, it has spread around the world, and it is continuing to spread.

> Despite this, Western media is intensifying the panic.

Western media is accurately reporting the facts, and the policy responses. Intense concern is appropriate.

> As a result of it, Chinese people are being discriminated against worldwide.

How? Some places have adopted or are preparing precautions directed at travelers entering from China (which is a different, though overlapping, set from "Chinese people"), but that's a reasonable step given that it is neither contained nor, in the very short term, containable by China, by the facts that the Chinese state has acknowledged (transmissibility during incubation period, number of people who traveled out of the effective area before any containment was in place, etc.)

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The outbreak is being handled very well through the Chinese planned economy. Despite this, Western media is intensifying the panic. As a result of it, Chinese people are being discriminated against worldwide.

> The outbreak is being handled very well through the Chinese planned economy. It may (or may not) be being handled as well as any government could, but its not being effectively contained, it has spread around the world, and it is continuing to spread. > Despite this, Western media is intensifying the panic. Western media is accurately reporting the facts, and the policy responses. Intense concern is appropriate. >…

>How?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51348593

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

#53

GIGO - The numbers from China are a complete fiction - amazes me how gullible and slow the mainstream media has been to catch onto what has been really going on in China. Peak Prosperity Videos are quite good at making sense of the sporadic info that does escape the China censors https://youtu.be/P_3hNPTofEU Huge crematoriums with 30 ovens each are running 24/7 to deal with the deaths - most estimates from citizen jo…

Oh come on, like I'm going to trust the panic video from the guy selling survivalist porn. /r/CoronaVirus hosts a similar gathering of nutters.

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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China will likely not be able to contain the virus at this stage. it also could mutate and change it's behavior.

> could mutate and change it's behavior(sic) We could also get hit by an asteroid tomorrow and most life on Earth wiped out, guess that isn't newsworthy though. Hope people are worried about that danger, despite all the effort put in we routinely can't detect dangerous objects that come near Earth. Scary stuff. How many people have died outside China from this virus again? Is it zero? Last I looked it was zero human…

“I think we’re going to start seeing secondary spread in the United States in the next two or three weeks,” said Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner.

- https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/mayo-clinic-dr-gregory-polan...

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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> The outbreak is being handled very well through the Chinese planned economy. It may (or may not) be being handled as well as any government could, but its not being effectively contained, it has spread around the world, and it is continuing to spread. > Despite this, Western media is intensifying the panic. Western media is accurately reporting the facts, and the policy responses. Intense concern is appropriate. >…

>How? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51348593

The only part of that that has to do with racism seems as likely to be existing racism adopting references to current events than any acceleration of it. The avoiding of shops in a Chinatown may be an overreaction, but there's no necessarily racist motivation, and in any case the idea that factual news about matters of current interest ought to be suppressed because some people might overreact in that way is ludicrous.

Re: What's Happening with the Coronavirus

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In my city (Lviv, Ukraine), number of viral pneumonia cases is jumped by 4x since Jan 26, but we have no test kits to confirm kind of virus they caused by. They can be caused by regular influenza, as usual, or they can be caused by corona. Nobody knows yet. :-/

Any link / proof ?

I had a look at some news from L'viv:

"Two people who returned from China were hospitalized in Lviv with signs of ARD (acute respiratory disease)" (1)

"Last week, nearly 13,000 people became ill in the Lviv region with influenza and SARS" (2)

Primarily among kids and young adults, in the article they say the weather is especially conducive to the spread of the flu right now; I wouldn't automatically link it to the virus in China...

1: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&... 2: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&...

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