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German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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And I really hate the moralizing as if the national economy needs to be run like a household budget.

I think the moralizing is useful if it means future generations aren't going to pay the price for today's profligacy.

Instead future generations are going to pay for today's economic ideology

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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This problem has probably been exacerbated by the fact the the $500 euro note has not been issued since 27 April 2019[1]. I wonder if making storing euros in cash 2.5 times harder (500 versus 200 euro notes) was part of the reason the 500 euro was retired. [Edit] The legal storing of cash. The stated reason was the criminal use of cash. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/500_euro_note

Indeed it was. Even now the 200 Euro note is the best for laundering and transportation since it's the highest value bill in common circulation (per Fed employee)

The really big criminals and tax evaders will ever find a way around this kind of restriction. This is useful to control the smaller fish. But, also, the cynic in me thinks that the big sharks have lots of friends in high places and politics and public administration and that those restrictions were never intended to catch them on the first place.

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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Savers are bad for the economy at large though because they don't invest in high risk businesses, but rather in low risk assets (RE, bonds, etc) that do nothing for no one. They're like scrooge mcduck swimming in their pile of gold.

Savers may not invest in high risk businesses, but the opposite of saving is not investing, it's spending, generally on consumer goods rather than on anything "productive". There's a different conversation to be had about how much consumer spending benefits those high risk businesses, but only a fraction of income earned by a business gets reinvested into plant and equipment in any case.

investing is a type of spending

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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post #31

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True. But it is nice to have large bills when buying something that costs a lot, like a used car. I recently did that in the US and if I had some $500 or $1000 bill things would have went a bit smoother at that nervous time in the transaction when you are handing over to a person a big chunk of money.

Why couldn't you use a cashier's check?

Because they are not used here since 19th century :)

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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Indeed it was. Even now the 200 Euro note is the best for laundering and transportation since it's the highest value bill in common circulation (per Fed employee)

Well, I am no expert but let me play the futurist here. After they killed the 200 Euro note it is going to be the 100 Euro note that is going to be used by those damn criminals! It is in essence part of the same eradicating rights movement that is fighting against anonymity in the internet. "Hey look, there are some criminals benefiting from it so let's kill it."

agree

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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post #31

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True. But it is nice to have large bills when buying something that costs a lot, like a used car. I recently did that in the US and if I had some $500 or $1000 bill things would have went a bit smoother at that nervous time in the transaction when you are handing over to a person a big chunk of money.

Why couldn't you use a cashier's check?

In Spain the bank charges you for this service (you can negotiate the amount). There is no commision for cash, but you must fill a form to tell the taxman that you are getting a more than given amount (3000€ if I remember well)

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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Why in the world does Germany not have a decent VC/investment industry? Seems like some companies and people are loaded with cash but they'd rather keep it in a bank than risk it on a new startup. You're not going to get many innovative startups doing that...

The standard explanation to this question is that Germans are risk-averse. People don't trust stocks but better want to save their money in a savings bank book. (That won't cover the whole situation, it's rather a two sentence summary)

Re: German banks are hoarding so many euros they need more vaults

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This is absurd in the context of Germany. They have a fetish with "fiscal responsibility". It'd be the natural inclination of every politician to cut back on deficits (and I imagine within a few years there'd be pressure to). Germany is a country with a broken military and infrastructure. They should spend money on that. They should cut taxes for workers. There's plenty of shit for Germany to spend money on, and it w…

I really hate this idea that everyone needs to just constantly be spending. It's useful but there is nothing wrong with having a slow stable fincal conscious ecconomy.

Spending does't necessarily mean wasting money on short-term consumption. They could also spend on sustainability and infrastructure.
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