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Re: Jonathan Blow on Rust

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I really like this idea. I’ve been messing around with the z3 theorem prover, and while I don’t think there’s an easy way to integrate it to do compile-time checks, I made a little wrapper class that lets you add assertions which are checked for satisfiability at the end of a function’s scope. But it’s all at runtime, so it’s more like a more advanced assert() than anything like Jai or Rust has. I think SMT solvers a…

I like this idea too, but bear in mind that the world of SMT in general (Z3 not an exception) seems to have a lot of cosmetically-similar formulations some of which are trivial and some of which will take forever to solve. The honeymoon with SMT is often brief. You've gotten through the whole 'hooray, now I can nuke Sudoko and those "Mr Brown lives on the same street as the baker, who has a white house" problems' and…

I wrote a paper on this a few years ago http://moskal.me/pdf/prtrig.pdf though indeed getting the quantifiers to verify is more art than science...

Re: Jonathan Blow on Rust

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> Blow's goal of making compilation describable within the language itself brings forward a huge set of features that other languages need a runtime or complex compiler to do. Things like code generation, reflection, metaprogramming, linting, and correctness validation could simply be packages you install with a package manager. If the language is kept at a minimal feature set and complexity with an advanced enough m…

I love Lisp as much as the next neckbeard, but macros aren't unique to Lisp and they aren't the only kind of compile-time execution. It's tough to come up with a better syntax than sexprs for writing macros in, that's clearly true. A number of recent languages have managed good-enough macros, Nim and Rust being two examples.

> good-enough macros, Nim

That's an understatement. Nim's macros and templates are one of its best features.

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