Here's a map with the latest coronavirus data: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
According to your link the survivability rate is almost 98% (305 deaths for 14628 cases). (I'm trying to inject a bit of optimism here, people are so gloomy).
China to inject $174B of liquidity on Monday as markets reopen
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#502Meta: 185 top comment replies, 278 comments total. The redditfication of this place continues. China articles are essentially broken and there's no point trying to advance the discussion or have healthy debate. Someone should make an extension that collapses all replies and only shows top level comments, think it might be a lot healthier for online discourse.
The same with posts on Bay Area Housing Prices, UBI, PHP, "The Terribleness of Google" and many more. All these subjects just repeat the same old arguments but just give a new set of people the opportunity to repeat them. This has been how HN has always been, it's not more redditified on these subjects now than it was before.
And personally I would clump the Google one as an actual "movement" that is awakening which needs critical mass to actually move forward. Not only that, but there is an element of powerlessness when it comes to such a topic and repeating things helps solidify and project the opinions to a greater audience. I.e. I feel those behaviors need to be known so I'll repeat them wherever I can.
To use another analogy: We've been doing a global search and we've found a reasonably good local-optima and now we need to explore the local search space for everything we can find on the topic. If not to find a perfect solution but at least to enumerate every single piece of info and nuance we can find.
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#503> It will do the exact opposite. Hasn’t the Chinese government been doing this for years in one form or another to artificially stimulate the market?
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#504Gorbachev used to say that Chernobyl was where the USSR really started to crumble. The disaster made clear how morally bankrupt and technically incompetent the system really was, wiping out any remaining goodwill or trust. Similarly, Katrina was where the semi-fascist US consensus under GW Bush went to pieces. I suspect China will experience a similar moment at some point. This might well be it.
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#505As reported for decades, rural China has a problem with small-time farmers living in proximity with livestock, especially pigs. Thus you get the annual "swine flu" as genetically we're very similar, so can pass viruses back and forth and amplify them.
So if you want to understand this flu season, just google for past years, especially SARS. This corona virus appears to be an even more communicable analog to SARS, which nations struggled to contain last time.
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#506Earlier quoted context omitted.
> for unforeseen disasters (the levy breach in New Orleans) Credible sources, including FEMA, predicted that one years in advance. Check out the October 2004 issue of National Geographic: > The storm hit Breton Sound with the fury of a nuclear warhead, pushing a deadly storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain. The water crept to the top of the massive berm that holds back the lake and then spilled over. Nearly 80 percent…
I remember watching the New Orleans breach in TV in Ireland where I was at the time and it was a bit odd - the only US news we had pretty much was CNN and that had been going on about the levys being likely to be breached about every 20 mins for the 24 to 48 hours previously. And then they breached. And then the president came on saying no one could have predicted they would be breached. Which was odd - I guess no on…
On the other hand, I'm not really willing to give Bush much credit here. The middle of a disaster is not the right time for pedantry.
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Would you please just stop posting generalized pejoratives about $NATION and $PEOPLE? In your case it's America and Americans, but it doesn't matter which particular nation someone has an issue with—it inevitably leads to increasingly low-quality and nasty internet discussion, which is just what we don't want here.
I know you're not doing this intentionally, but it's always many times more obvious to readers than it is to the commenter. Multiply the possible effects of such a comment by 100 and you'll get a more accurate picture of how this sounds.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22219018.
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#509Earlier quoted context omitted.
So they are doing the right thing for wrong, selfish reasons because they are misinformed.
Isn't there also a shortage of masks because everyone's snapping them up and hoarding them? If people who're actually ill can't get a hold of any because of that then I'd argue they aren't even doing the right thing period.
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> Regular citizens in America have a worse life than people in other OECD countires, but you're OK with it, because "rah, rah America". By what measure? The average American house is double the size of the average European house. We have vastly more disposable income: http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/united-states/ It correspondingly leads the world in household consumption expenditures per capita: https:…
> By what measure? By all the measures that actually indicate how life is for the average person on the street, not just the ones about how much stuff you use up. The US is at or very near the worst among OECD countries in: infant mortality, child poverty, child health and safety, life expectancy at birth, healthy life expectancy, rate of obesity, disability-adjusted life years, doctors per 1000 people, deaths from t…
As to your other indicators, are you really talking about the “average person” or the poorest people? Because there is a big difference, and in the US we have deliberately chosen to optimize for lower taxes on the middle class at the expense of weaker safety nets for the lowest class. Take, for example, income mobility. For the top 80% it’s similar between the US and Denmark: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012.... Someone born in the second to lowest quantile, for example, has a similar shot at rising to the top quantile in the US and Denmark.
As to health indicators it’s similar, although also complicated by demographic and diet differences. Asian Americans have the longest life expectancy of pretty much anyone in the world, including people in Hong Kong, Singapore, or Japan. It’s not because there is an alternate, Asian only health system. It’s because Asian Americans are largely outside the bottom quantile, and a lot of the things that drag down the US in the overall average are a function of very bad results in the bottom quantile.