A preview of coming attractions in this thread: - Weight loss isn't hard, just eat fewer calories than you burn. - Keto will obviously make you lose weight! - I lost N lbs by meditation and intermittent fasting! - Being hungry sucks. - Anybody can do it, this one trainer put on 100 lbs, and then took it all off again! - Being fat is just another sign that you're lazy. - It's sugar's fault! (Alternatively: It's artifi…
Weight Loss Is Harder Than Rocket Science
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#32You can also get a Dexta scan that tells you your body body composition, how much fat, how much muscle mass. I think I pay $70 every scan and get one a couple of times a year. You can use this data also to calculate estimated required calories, body composition, are you loosing fat/muscle and gives data to change diet accordingly.
You only need to be in a small 300 cal deficit to loose weight. If you want to maintain muscle mass and drop body fat it's better to be in the smallest deficit possible and this will also reduce hunger.
If you want to loose body weight quickly and maintain muscle that's hard! That does require a bigger calorie deficit by reducing food, and increasing activity (cardio) to burn more while getting macros exactly right to hold on to as much muscle as possible although you will loose muscle. Bodybuilders are experts at this, they pile on weight during the off season so they are in a calorie surplus so they can gain muscle then diet down to single digit body fat percentages trying to hold as much muscle as possible.
Everyone talks about loosing weight but you can not weigh much and be fat aka skinny fat and unfit. Alot of 'slim' people will fit in to this category unless they have an active lifestyle.
The modern normalized diet is terrible. It's carb / sugar heavy. There's nothing wrong with carbs you need them but people are eating far to many of them while not burning them and everything is sugar heavy which your body naturally wants to eat more of.
My girlfriend has mental health issues and over the past few years has become morbidly obese which causes bigger and bigger issues as I eat my veg, carbs, protein mainly whole foods. I weigh the quantities, look good, in great health medically etc. I eat well, 3500+cal a day as I burn it off with lifting weights and doing cardio.
On the other end she eats complete rubbish, sugary comfort foods, lots of fruit as it's good (high sugar), lots of full fat milk as it's good, lot's of olive oil as it's good for you, and now morbidly obese and still gaining, high cholesterol, deteriorating mental health yet somehow I'm the one with the eating issue as I watch what I eat as I eat mainly for performance, going to the gym after work most evenings isn't normal and shouldn't have to do it. She wants to loose weight but doesn't want to put in the work, she sees the stuff she's eating as normal, doesn't want to sacrifice them and sees going to the gym as abnormal. She's right the gym is abnormal in the sense it's replacing the active activity we used to do before sedate lifestyles but it's not abnormal to make your body exercise it in a way no longer doing sat at desks all day.
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#33A preview of coming attractions in this thread: - Weight loss isn't hard, just eat fewer calories than you burn. - Keto will obviously make you lose weight! - I lost N lbs by meditation and intermittent fasting! - Being hungry sucks. - Anybody can do it, this one trainer put on 100 lbs, and then took it all off again! - Being fat is just another sign that you're lazy. - It's sugar's fault! (Alternatively: It's artifi…
- Something is terrible wrong on a global scale. Because we and especially children didn't suddenly _all_ become lazy sedentary face stuffing slobs in the last 40 years.
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#34A preview of coming attractions in this thread: - Weight loss isn't hard, just eat fewer calories than you burn. - Keto will obviously make you lose weight! - I lost N lbs by meditation and intermittent fasting! - Being hungry sucks. - Anybody can do it, this one trainer put on 100 lbs, and then took it all off again! - Being fat is just another sign that you're lazy. - It's sugar's fault! (Alternatively: It's artifi…
Weight loss might be hard, but it absolutely is not complicated. Perhaps the metabolic processes are, but it does really boil down to calories in/calories out, and absolutely no amount of contrivance can change that. Life is also typically full of adversity and hardship, and managing weight is a hardship that all people share, regardless of their status. Perhaps “lazy” is a bit reductive, and everybody’s circumstance…
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weight loss might be hard, but it absolutely is not complicated. Perhaps the metabolic processes are, but it does really boil down to calories in/calories out, and absolutely no amount of contrivance can change that. Life is also typically full of adversity and hardship, and managing weight is a hardship that all people share, regardless of their status. Perhaps “lazy” is a bit reductive, and everybody’s circumstance…
Your comment is still reductive. I don't put in any effort; I get away with not paying much mind to my diet, and not working out. I'm not overweight despite consuming more sugar than I should at work, and mostly consisting on milks (cow, goat, soy, coconut) and oatmeal.
Yes you do. Taking the rest of your comment at face value, there’s no way that you chow down on unhealthy food at any time and in any quantity you please. Your examples of unhealthy food (milk and oatmeal) are also not very unhealthy. You might say “but I have no desire to eat unhealthy food”, and while that would most certainly not be true, you likely have less of an appetite for it than somebody who’s overweight. But if a person who over eats unhealthy food fixed their diet, their excessive appetite would return to normal after a while. That’s simply part of settling the debt for all their accumulated poor health decisions.
You also likely exercise more than a typical overweight person. I personally think it’s no effort at all to walk reasonably short distances to do things like run errands or go to a restaurant, but for somebody who lives a sedentary lifestyle, that could potentially be considered a unacceptably significant effort.
You may consider the effort to be trivial, but any person who’s not overweight does some combination or eating less calories/exercising more than any person who is overweight.
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#36A preview of coming attractions in this thread: - Weight loss isn't hard, just eat fewer calories than you burn. - Keto will obviously make you lose weight! - I lost N lbs by meditation and intermittent fasting! - Being hungry sucks. - Anybody can do it, this one trainer put on 100 lbs, and then took it all off again! - Being fat is just another sign that you're lazy. - It's sugar's fault! (Alternatively: It's artifi…
Weight loss might be hard, but it absolutely is not complicated. Perhaps the metabolic processes are, but it does really boil down to calories in/calories out, and absolutely no amount of contrivance can change that. Life is also typically full of adversity and hardship, and managing weight is a hardship that all people share, regardless of their status. Perhaps “lazy” is a bit reductive, and everybody’s circumstance…
“Effort” isn’t quite enough here: a huge factor is lifestyle related and many people have significant barriers which are hard to change: moving to a neighborhood which makes walking/biking/transit viable is often an expensive choice and almost always disruptive. Most of the 20th century was spent getting people to sit in cars, at desks, etc. and it’s not trivial to change that.
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#37Surprising it doesn't mention waist to height ratio which is more accurate to me. I had a normal bmi but I was clearly overweight using the waist to height ratio. Not perfect but better in my opinion than bmi http://www.bmi-calculator.net/waist-to-height-ratio-calculat...
How about just body fat percentage?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your comment is still reductive. I don't put in any effort; I get away with not paying much mind to my diet, and not working out. I'm not overweight despite consuming more sugar than I should at work, and mostly consisting on milks (cow, goat, soy, coconut) and oatmeal.
> I don't put in any effort Yes you do. Taking the rest of your comment at face value, there’s no way that you chow down on unhealthy food at any time and in any quantity you please. Your examples of unhealthy food (milk and oatmeal) are also not very unhealthy. You might say “but I have no desire to eat unhealthy food”, and while that would most certainly not be true, you likely have less of an appetite for it than…
Drinks are free so I'll drink a handful day to save money; sometimes with half-and-half or heavy cream.
I do get a bit of exercise making drinks, but otherwise I drive everywhere and don't walk, though I'd like to start. I imagine my weight is thanks to a combination of my height, metabolism, and not eating proper meals. (I cook with my girlfriend every now and again)
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weight loss might be hard, but it absolutely is not complicated. Perhaps the metabolic processes are, but it does really boil down to calories in/calories out, and absolutely no amount of contrivance can change that. Life is also typically full of adversity and hardship, and managing weight is a hardship that all people share, regardless of their status. Perhaps “lazy” is a bit reductive, and everybody’s circumstance…
> Life is also typically full of adversity and hardship, and managing weight is a hardship that all people share, regardless of their status. Perhaps “lazy” is a bit reductive, and everybody’s circumstance are different, but if somebody is overweight, the solution is simply to put in the effort that somebody who is not overweight puts in every day. “Effort” isn’t quite enough here: a huge factor is lifestyle related…
Pretty weak excuse tbh. You don’t need a gym membership or a scenic park across the street to get enough exercise into your day. There are valid reasons to reserve judgement, but this isn’t one of them. Mental health arguably is. Poverty can be in a couple of ways. The cheapest food is often very unhealthy, and if you’re working for 16 hours a day then you likely have less opportunity to eat healthily (for example look at how ~60% of nurses are overweight, compared to ~40% of the general population). But for most cases, the key personality difference between an overweight person and a healthy weight person is laziness.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't put in any effort Yes you do. Taking the rest of your comment at face value, there’s no way that you chow down on unhealthy food at any time and in any quantity you please. Your examples of unhealthy food (milk and oatmeal) are also not very unhealthy. You might say “but I have no desire to eat unhealthy food”, and while that would most certainly not be true, you likely have less of an appetite for it than…
I do eat a lot of sweets (cookies, coffee cake, etc), probably one a day, and the milk I drink is often with some syrup; I work at a cafe. Drinks are free so I'll drink a handful day to save money; sometimes with half-and-half or heavy cream. I do get a bit of exercise making drinks, but otherwise I drive everywhere and don't walk, though I'd like to start. I imagine my weight is thanks to a combination of my height,…