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Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by ddoeth »

mopsi wrote: post #65
hibbelig wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That middle-endianness is spoken doesn’t make it better. It’s still crazy. Starting with the most general and ending with the most specific is a logical order. Doing it the other way round is also logical. But starting with the middle makes no sense. It doesn’t seem unusual to you because you use it often. That said I’m German and I realize that German postal addresses are crazy for the same reason. I wish we‘d adopt…

What's so crazy about the German notation? Seems to make perfect sense, as it goes line-by-line from the smallest to the largest sorting unit: 1. Exact street location (street + house) 2. District (postal code) 3. City 4. Country Also I prefer this order over the Chinese, because I assume most people handling mail will need to smallest details and it would just be very annoying if local mailmen had to skip over count…

I think he meant, that the street name is before the house number

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by lucideer »

mopsi wrote: post #65
hibbelig wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That middle-endianness is spoken doesn’t make it better. It’s still crazy. Starting with the most general and ending with the most specific is a logical order. Doing it the other way round is also logical. But starting with the middle makes no sense. It doesn’t seem unusual to you because you use it often. That said I’m German and I realize that German postal addresses are crazy for the same reason. I wish we‘d adopt…

What's so crazy about the German notation? Seems to make perfect sense, as it goes line-by-line from the smallest to the largest sorting unit: 1. Exact street location (street + house) 2. District (postal code) 3. City 4. Country Also I prefer this order over the Chinese, because I assume most people handling mail will need to smallest details and it would just be very annoying if local mailmen had to skip over count…

You listed two details on one line to make the German notation seem non-crazy.

A more "logical" notation, as per the gp's comment would start:

1. Exact street location (house + street)

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by elif »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #70
gmac wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chicken and egg. I (in British English) say the second of February.

I would agree that there's influence in both directions between the written pattern and the usual manner of speech. All I'm saying here is that there's nothing surprising about the written pattern matching the usual manner of speech. That is the primary purpose of writing; it's weirder for the writing not to match the speech. (Although certainly not unheard of; it is the norm in e.g. Chinese.)

Unfortunately, you're using an idiosyncratic American "usual manner of speech" to justify an idiosyncratic American format.

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by thaumasiotes »

elif wrote: post #73
thaumasiotes wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would agree that there's influence in both directions between the written pattern and the usual manner of speech. All I'm saying here is that there's nothing surprising about the written pattern matching the usual manner of speech. That is the primary purpose of writing; it's weirder for the writing not to match the speech. (Although certainly not unheard of; it is the norm in e.g. Chinese.)

Unfortunately, you're using an idiosyncratic American "usual manner of speech" to justify an idiosyncratic American format.

And the problem with that is... what? Are you saying we should all speak Chinese because spoken Chinese dates go in correct sorting order?

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Lio wrote: post #48
rags2riches wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the Fourth of July then?

I don’t know, I always imagined that you said “4th of July” because up to that point you were Brits and that’s how we say it. ...and then the very next day, without adult supervision, you started saying your dates weirdly and dropping the “u”s out of words, stuff like that.* * DISCLAIMER: May not be an accurate representation of history. :P

It's more accurate than it might sound. If I recall correctly, the American spelling reforms were largely a one-man top-down effort driven by the ideological goal of being more separate from Britain.

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by ewindal »

mcv wrote: post #57
freyir wrote: post #21

The Human Palindrome will be born tomorrow and die on 2121-12-12 at the age of 101. And in true palindromic fashion, his life will start and end with diapers.

Any responsible parent will call him Bob or Anna, of course. Taking surnames into account is going to be a bit harder. Here's a good resource for anyone becoming a parent today: https://parentinghealthybabies.com/palindrome-names/

Oof, that list is terrible. Natan is listed twice, and there’s at least one name that isn’t a palindrome. The only two names that really work from that list is Anna and Hannah. Nobody should name their kid Bob in 2020, it’s not a «young» name yet. Thr older Bobs need to die off before it’s an acceptable kid’s name.

As for the rest of those names, I refuse to acknowledge them as names. They’re more like onomatopoeia.

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by narraturgy »

CraftThatBlock wrote: post #26
arthurfm wrote: post #12

02/02/2020 is the most palindromic date ever. https://youtu.be/4fE_sXZjxng Not only that, but it's a strobogrammatic number when viewed on a 7-segment display.

What is "most palindromic"? Wouldn't 11/11/1111 be the "most"?

I would argue that your example is tautological and therefore less significant.

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by isoskeles »

geocrasher wrote: post #28

This post would not be complete without The Ballad of Palindrome by Riders In The Sky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzvQEstC03o A Spaghetti Western style story, starring your hero, Palindrome.

How would this be a Spaghetti Western rather than just an American Western?

Re: Palindrome Day 20200202

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Post by hibbelig »

mopsi wrote: post #65
hibbelig wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That middle-endianness is spoken doesn’t make it better. It’s still crazy. Starting with the most general and ending with the most specific is a logical order. Doing it the other way round is also logical. But starting with the middle makes no sense. It doesn’t seem unusual to you because you use it often. That said I’m German and I realize that German postal addresses are crazy for the same reason. I wish we‘d adopt…

What's so crazy about the German notation? Seems to make perfect sense, as it goes line-by-line from the smallest to the largest sorting unit: 1. Exact street location (street + house) 2. District (postal code) 3. City 4. Country Also I prefer this order over the Chinese, because I assume most people handling mail will need to smallest details and it would just be very annoying if local mailmen had to skip over count…

The house number is smaller than the street, but the street comes first. If we put the house number first, then we'd get a logical order.
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