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Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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When I first landed on this web page, I could read exactly 1 line of the article before closing all the popups: https://imgur.com/a/HcKD7cX

Ironic that I couldn’t see your picture before accepting imgurs cookie notice

The internet sucks now.

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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The most famous example of how hard it is to overdose on LSD was probably the case where 8 patients were admitted after snorting what they thought was cocaine, but which turned out to be LSD. The amounts in their blood suggests they each got hundreds of times a normal dose. All eight survived (though it's not clear if they would have without hospital treatment).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1129381/ here's a research paper on them. They were in really rough shape for a hit but did survive. It's a fascinating read.

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Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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There's a fantastic interview with Stanislav Grof, who supervised roughly 4500 LSD sessions starting in Czechoslovakia, here: [1] His intelligence, knowledge and keenness of mind is truly impressive, especially considering his advanced age. This interview is highly recommended to anyone with an interest in this subject. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mdYUmvTeig

Thanks for naming Grof - I’ve read many books of him and had some holotropic breathworks. Really interesting stuff.

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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This is similar case as metamphetamine (better known pervitin), which was re-discovered by some Czech junkies in toxicology literature. In late 70s, somebody actually developed how to synthethise it from pseudoefedrin found in common drugs against flu. So after that, Czech junkies began to ambush pharmacies and some even get employed in efedrin production plant in Roztoky u Prahy.

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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The wikipedia article is about Expansionism not Explosionism but I can understand the word because the art form is rather bulging / expanding / spatial

Expansionism is something else.

You just read english translation of a polish article.

Vladimir Bodnik called it explosionalismus. In polish explosionalismus is translated as eksplozjonalizm or eksplozjonizm. It was translated from that to 'explosionism'.

http://www.artcasopis.cz/clanky/explosionalismus-vladimira-b...

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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When I first landed on this web page, I could read exactly 1 line of the article before closing all the popups: https://imgur.com/a/HcKD7cX

Ironic that I couldn’t see your picture before accepting imgurs cookie notice

Anytime a site tries to twist my arm and take their tracking cookie I just right click>block element and proceed without their stupid cookie.

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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It didn't seem to be doing Alexander Shulgin any favors in old age, from what I saw of his later interviews anyways. Though he probably exposed himself to far more than just psychedelics.

Shulgin did suffer a stroke and dementia in his old age. His wife, who probably did just as many (and many of the same) substances he did survived him and is doing fine. Something else to consider is that Shulgin said he usually only ever did maybe two or three sessions with any given substance, and then moved on to another one. It could be that one or more of them was beneficial, but he might not have taken enough o…

Sasha Shulgin tested a lot of compounds, so making any claim would be tough - some might have helped and some might have hurt.

It can take only a minor chemical modification to turn a benign drug into a neurotoxin one.

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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It didn't seem to be doing Alexander Shulgin any favors in old age, from what I saw of his later interviews anyways. Though he probably exposed himself to far more than just psychedelics.

Link to interview where Shulgin was not lucid?

It's not like I have them bookmarked or something.

Many years ago after reading PIHKAL I went a bit down this rabbit hole watching a bunch of what's on Youtube associated with Shulgin. He had given some presentation where he was clearly experiencing some mental problems. I'm sure you can find examples if you go digging, I don't have time to do that for you.

Re: History of LSD in Czechoslovakia

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Link to interview where Shulgin was not lucid?

It's not like I have them bookmarked or something. Many years ago after reading PIHKAL I went a bit down this rabbit hole watching a bunch of what's on Youtube associated with Shulgin. He had given some presentation where he was clearly experiencing some mental problems. I'm sure you can find examples if you go digging, I don't have time to do that for you.

Sorry, but your critical claims of Shulgin requires strong evidence. I'm willing to believe he struggled in his old age, but need to be convinced that it was due to psychedelic use and not post-stroke and normal dementia.
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